Wednesday, 10 July 2019

Laun - Schönborn 1-0


As born in Vienna, I cannot totally neglect the supposed "Catholic bishop" and even "Cardinal" who disfigures its Archdiocese.

I am on record as saying homosexuals can marry. I stand by that despite the divorce of Josh Weed.

I am equally, let it be noted, on record as saying "gay marriage" is not marriage. Now, what did the one and the other of these (Laun / Schönborn) say?

But now concerning the question of Cardinal Marx, and not a few of the priests, the answer is simple: one may ask for God's blessing for sinners, but not for the sin. That is to say, one could not consecrate a brothel, one could not bless a concentration camp or weapons which are not explicitly ordained for hunting or for legitimate self-defense. Therefore it is clear that one may not bless a relationship which is sinful; [one may not bless] the mafia; no blessing for organizations or institutions which promote or procure abortions or which propagate ideologies which are against the Faith, antisemitic contents, or other forms of racist thought.


Austrian bishop forcefully rejects German Bishops’ idea of blessing homosexual unions
News Catholic Church Tue Feb 13, 2018 - 10:24 am EST by Maike Hickson
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/austrian-bishop-forcefully-rejects-german-bishops-idea-of-blessing-homosexu


“It certainly is not acceptable to mention the value of same-sex relationships at the same time as mentioning the mafia or concentration camps, as it now unfortunately has happened,” said Schönborn. “These things are not to be compared. To talk like this is unacceptable.”

Additionally, Cardinal Schönborn declared helplessness in light of the “marriage for all.”

“The 'marriage-for-all' poses for us as Church some challenges for which we do not have sure formulas,” he said. “We have to find careful answers to these questions which keep the dignity and the salvation of the souls of the concerned in view.”


Cardinal Schönborn outraged at bishop’s critique of blessings for homosexual unions
News Catholic Church Wed Feb 14, 2018 - 1:30 pm EST by Maike Hickson
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-schoenborn-outraged-at-bishops-critique-of-blessings-for-homosexua


For the part "unacceptable" Laun has answered that common denominator is mortal sinfulness. Which is true.

In fact, there is a certain class of mortally sinful sins which are worse than usual, namely "sins that cry to heaven for vengeance". Murder, sin against nature (sodomite, lesbian, bestial, perhaps also solitary), oppression of widows, orphans and paupers, denying the labourer his just wage.

One can debate about whether a mafioso is a murderer. May depend on when and where, but often one may presume mafiosi are so, however, a priest blessing a meeting place of a mafia and the mafia meeting there might have a case for doubting that. I was once in a boy's camp in a dorm called "Mafia BF".* Probably none in that Mafia was a murderer then, and I hope none became one such. But one can hardly debate that a self styled homosexual couple, not simply two men cohabiting as "room mates", like Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson, but a union of "love" in a sense clearly going "beyond" friendship, is involved in sin against nature.

In other words, one can certainly say the comment of Schönborn is insulting to Mafiosi - especially the ones of Mafia BF.** Or there was a Mafioso, when the Virgin was carried in procession close to his prison, a statue of Her that is, the ones carrying stumbled so it looked as if She bowed down over him. Probably a more worthy of blessings than a gay couple, perhaps he has repented if murders were involved. Or perhaps there weren't.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Bibl. Audoux
Seven sons of St Felicitas, martyrs***
10.VII.2019

PS, in enumeration of sins against nature crying out for vengeance of heaven, I forgot heterosexual couples using coitus interruptus or other corrupt practises to avoid having more children. European countries having combined licit and sponsored condoms (et cetera) with old age pensions have for some decades given false hopes that people don't need to look after their old age by having children, and this has led to several crises in pensions' systems. Sweden in 2003 declared privatisation of pensions above an insufficient minimum, France recently changed conditions for pension system to the worse, and Germany, when I was in Berlin after New Year 2005 was telling me the young were being harrassed to work and pay taxes so much they could no longer concentrate on having children of their own. Obviously an idea supplementing above arrangement, namely that immigrants would guarantee pensions when children fail to do so, has not been working out correctly. And I have in Sweden online been called a Nazi, demonising immigrants, for pointing this out, for saying they are not stupid. Since I don't think it is their duty to be stupid, I don't think saying they are not stupid (on this matter) is anything like demonising them./HGL

* "Mafia BF" = "Mafia (ex-)Blaue Falken", since same dorm minus me had been called "Blaue Falken" before. Or perhaps even it had been "Mafia BF" before and it became "Blutströpfchen" (after one nosebleeding when chosing new name) my year. That camp was my longest contact with Calvinism, since Austrian Protestantism (usually in Burgenland or Vienna) is Calvinist. ** However, as the other boys were Calvinists on a regular basis, not Church hoppers as ma and me back then, there was no priest blessing that dorm. *** Romae passio sanctorum septem Martyrum fratrum, filiorum sanctae Felicitatis Martyris, id est Januarii, Felicis, Philippi, Silvani, Alexandri, Vitalis et Martialis, tempore Antonini Imperatoris, sub Praefecto Urbis Publio. Ex ipsis vero Januarius, post virgarum verbera et carceris macerationem, plumbatis occisus; Felix et Philippus fustibus mactati; Silvanus praecipitio interemptus; Alexander, Vitalis et Martialis capitali sententia puniti sunt.

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