Bonum Festum Sancti Iacobi Apostoli

Christifidelibus lectoribus exopto./HGL

Sancti Jacobi Apostoli, qui exstitit beati Joannis Evangelistae frater; et, prope festum Paschae ab Herode Agrippa decollatus, primus ex Apostolis coronam martyiii percepit. Ejus sacra ossa, ab Hierosolymis ad Hispanias hoc die translata, et in ultimis earum finibus apud Gallaeciam recondita, celeberrima illarum gentium veneratione, et frequenti Christianorum conctirsu, religionis et voti causa illuc adeuntium, pie coluntur.

Seal of Confession

Priest's Confession Secretly Recorded In 1996
Servants Of God | 21 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-__UDxxIIo

Imaginons que certains voudraient boire leur bière à l'endroit où j'ai mes choses

Je pourrais imaginer des raisons, et je ne suis en principe pas contre l'alcool.

Je dis ceci parce que je trouve régulièrement des cannettes dans la poubelle à côté.

Mais, s v p, Bud Lite n'est pas du bon goût. Une certaine personne nommée DM ayant fait de la pub pour cette chose, préférez une bière décente, s v p !/HGL

PS, parmi des Scandinaves du quartier, il peut y avoir des gens qui surdiagnosent volontier l'alcoolisme.

Pour Norvège, il semble y avoir des surdiagnoses de dépression :

I Norge rammes rundt én av ti personer i løpet av et år. I Europa rammes mellom én og to av ti personer av behandlingstrengende depresjon i løpet av livet.

En Norvège, environ un sur dix personnes est accablée par une dépression par durée d'un an. En Europe, entre un et deux sur dix sont accablés par des dépressions nécessitant des soins au long de leur vie.

https://nhi.no/sykdommer/psykisk-helse/depresjon/depresjon-forekomst

Je ne suis pas d'accord sur l'Europe, mais notons que les dépressions semblent vers 80 fois plus fréquents en Norvège. À moins de noter que là c'est pas marqué "behandlingstrengende" / "nécessitant des soins" ... Peut-être indice de surdiagnose. Et donné qu'en Norvège la Janteloven (loi de Yante) exige qu'on encaisse, il y a un risque qu'on surdiagnose sur des gens qui se plaignent au lieu d'encaisser. En Norvège des soins en hôpital pour dépression peuvent bien durer six semaines.

La même observation vaut sur l'alcool.

Le restaurant est très cher, l'alcool est hors de prix. C'est-à-dire qu'il y a aussi cette culture de on ne boit pas et quand on boit, on boit à outrance parce que c'est exceptionnel.

Elodie:
7 ans en Norvège, 3 enfants, mariée à un Norvégien…. et pourtant j'ai fui ce pays 🇳🇴
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNNwa52Rc1g

Avec une telle culture, comment ne pas surdiagnosticer l'alcoolisme chez des gens qui boivent un peu par jour, comme je faisais jusqu'à récemment ?/HGL

Perspective on the Children's Crusade

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Spidey Fallacy Two Debunks · New blog on the kid: Alex Yordanov Objected · Perspective on the Children's Crusade

Lateran III, 1179
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum11.htm

Canon 18

Since the church of God is bound to provide like a mother for those in want, with regard to both the things which concern the support of the body and those which lead to the progress of the soul, therefore, in order that the opportunity of learning to read and progress in study is not withdrawn from poor children who cannot be helped by the support of their parents, in every cathedral church a master is to be assigned some proper benefice so that he may teach the clerics of that church and the poor scholars. Thus the needs of the teacher are to be supplied and the way to knowledge opened for learners. In other churches and monasteries too, if anything in times past has been assigned in them for this purpose, it should be restored. Let no one demand any money for a licence to teach, or under cover of some custom seek anything from teachers, or forbid anyone to teach who is suitable and has sought a licence. Whoever presumes to act against this decree is to be deprived of ecclesiastical benefice. Indeed, it seems only right that in the church of God a person should not have the fruit of his labour if through self-seeking he strives to prevent the progress of the churches by selling the licence to teach.

Lateran IV, 1215, three years after the Children's Crusade
https://www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/ecum12-2.htm#1

Canon 11

On schoolmasters for the poor

Zeal for learning and the opportunity to make progress is denied to some through lack of means. The Lateran council therefore dutifully decreed that “in each cathedral church there should be provided a suitable benefice for a master who shall instruct without charge the clerics of the cathedral church and other poor scholars, thus at once satisfying the teacher’s needs and opening up the way of knowledge to learners”. This decree, however, is very little observed in many churches. We therefore confirm it and add that not only in every cathedral church but also in other churches with sufficient resources, a suitable master elected by the chapter or by the greater and sounder part of it, shall be appointed by the prelate to teach grammar and other branches of study, as far as is possible, to the clerics of those and other churches. The metropolitan church shall have a theologian to teach scripture to priests and others and especially to instruct them in matters which are recognized as pertaining to the cure of souls. The income of one prebend shall be assigned by the chapter to each master, and as much shall be assigned by the metropolitan to the theologian. The incumbent does not by this become a canon but he receives the income of one as long as he continues to teach. If the metropolitan church finds providing for two masters a burden, let it provide for the theologian in an aforesaid way but get adequate provision made for the grammarian in another church of the city or diocese.

In other words, the Latin West at this time had a distinct problem of analphabetism, which was being remedied, but was not yet remedied.

At the same time, this was little more than a century after other popular Crusaders had run amuck. Partly in the same region, as Cologne is on the Rhine.

Therefore the Children's Crusade is perfectly credible. It kind of became to the Middle Ages what Altamont was to the Hippies. In 1312 or 1412, it would not have been credible, and a single not fully grown crusader ended on a bonfire.

St Joan of Arc, pray for us!

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. James, Apostle
25.VII.2026

Tolkien's Letters

Analyzing The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien
Jess of the Shire | 24 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtvFBF9lKE

This is not to exonerate Wojtyla, but ...

... on one item, it seems I was too dissatisfied with his lack of precise scholastic language, which is also not that of Dei Filius.

I spoke of "faith and reason is like saying blonde and hair" ... blonde being a certain quality of hair and faith being a certain quality of reason.

OK, I seem to have to eat my words:

Verum etsi fides sit supra rationem, nulla tamen umquam inter fidem et rationem vera dissensio esse potest: cum idem Deus, qui mysteria revelat et fidem infundit, animo humano rationis lumen indiderit; Deus autem negare seipsum non possit, nec verum vero umquam contradicere.*

Nope, speaking of faith and reason as two distinct things is not a modernist confusion. The usage already exists in clergy above any possible reproach of heresy.

One can still ask whether the simile of "two wings" is well chosen insofar as it might imply equality, but the simple fact of distinguishing like two quasi separate items is not per se reproachable./HGL

* https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/i-vatican-council/documents/vat-i_const_18700424_dei-filius_la.html

Bonum Festum Sanctae Christinae

Christifidelibus lectoribus exopto./HGL

Tyri, apud lacum Vulsinium, in Tuscia, sanctae Christinae, Virginis et Martyris. Haec Virgo, cum patris idola aurea et argentea, in Christum credens, comminuisset atque illorum fragmina pauperibus erogasset, ejusdem patris jussu verberibus dilaniata est, aliisque suppliciis dirissime cruciata, et cum magno saxi pondere in lacum projecta, sed ab Angelo liberata; deinde, sub alio Judice, patris sui successore, acerbiora tormenta constanter pertulit; novissime, sub Juliano Praeside, post fornacem ardentem, ubi quinque diebus illaesa permansit, post serpentes virtute Christi superatos, martyrii sui cursum abscissione linguae et sagittarum infixione complevit.

Des prières pour Philippe Pétain

C'est le 75e anniversaire de son décès, trois Ave Maria seraient en ordre./HGL

Certains prétendent que Ken Ham aurait fraudé pour financier son Ark Encounter avec des fonds publiques (il répond à ça et à d'autres choses)

The protesters continue to tell people that Kentucky taxpayers paid [music] to build the Ark Encounter. That is simply false. Not one single [music] dollar of existing Kentucky taxpayer money was used to build the Ark. The Ark Encounter was constructed [music] through private investment and donations.

Les manifestants continuent de dire aux gens que les imposables de Kentucky auraient payé pour bâtir l'Ark Encounter. Ceci est simplement faux. Pas un seul dollar de l'argent des imposables de Kentucky fut utilisé pour bâtir [la réplique de] l'Arche. L'Ark Encounter fut construit par des investissements et donations privées.

Ensuite il explique le :

KENTUCKY TOURISM DEVELOPMENT ACT
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/CommitteeDocuments/319/11409/5.%20Tourism%20Development%20Program%20Overview.pdf

En gros, selon lui (vérifiez sur le programme gouvernemental) d'abord l'attraction touristique doit être bâti, par des moyens privés. Ensuite, elle doit réussir à attrahir les gens, générer des révenus de tourisme. Uniquement après ça, l'état de Kentucky dit merci beaucoup en redonnant une partie des revenus créés pour le fisc.

Pourquoi Kentucky ferait-il ça pour l'Ark Encounter?

Visitors don't just come to the Ark. They stay in hotels. They eat in local [music] restaurants. They buy gasoline. They shop at local stores. They visit other attractions [music] and support thousands of jobs. And that generates additional sales taxes, [music] payroll taxes, income taxes, and business growth throughout Northern Kentucky.

Les visiteurs ne viennent pas juste à l'Arche, ils restent en des hôtels, ils mangent en des restaurations locales, ils achètent du fiousl, ils font du shopping et des courses. En plus ils visient d'autres attractions et soutiennent des milliers d'hommes en travail. Et ça crée des impôts sur les ventes, sur les salaires, sur les revenus, et aggrandissement du commerce par la partie Nord du Kentucky.

Je vérifie sur le Tourism Development Act.

a) Le programme n'est pas limité à des musées ou d'autres sites d'information;
b) si musées il y a il n'y a aucune obligation de donner d'informations correctes pour en profiter (les éventuels fraudes idéologiques seraient strictement question pour d'autres parties du gouvernement de Kentucly) ;
c) et, probablement, ceci serait à vérifier ailleurs, Kentucky n'a aucune législation interdisant le créationnisme comme "désinformation" ... heureusement.

En d'autres mots, il n'y a aucune fraude contre les conditions de la loi appliquée.

Ce n'est pas parce que Kent Hovind ait fraudé sur les impôts (discutable) que le créationnisme en soi devienne une association de fraudeurs. Et en plus, ils ne font pas partie de la même version du Baptisme non plus. Un peu comme les Conclavistes ne sont pas l'Institut Mater Boni Consilii qui n'est pas la Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pie X qui n'est pas L'Institut du Christ-Roi Souverain Prêtre ... un scandal chez un ne doit pas automatiquement noircir les autres. Et malgré la similitude des noms, Ken Ham n'est pas Kent Hovind.

Une des manifestants aurait préféré que des dollars des imposables auraient passé à des projets historiques plus dignes, comme Kentucky's African American Heritage Trail, mais selon la loi, ça semble être une question très banale des revenus créés pour le fisc, et si ce site de mémoire sur les Noirs avait généré autant de revenus, il aurait reçu autant, pourvu que l'application soit faite.

Je viens de citer, traduire les citations et les commenter à partir de cette vidéo :

These Protesters Had Some WILD Things to Say About Us
Ken Ham | 21 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJWsqcKMOU

Or, un des manifestants avait prétendu que l'indoctrination d'enfants serait en soi chose abusive ... apparemment si c'était les parents qui choisissaient la doctrine à endoctriner.

J'ai peur qu'ils ne trouvent pas abusif de la Suède de choisir une doctrine antichrétienne, peu différent du Matérialisme Dialectique, dans laquelle les enfants sont de fait endoctrinés dans au moins 9 ans scolaires, avec très peu d'occasions de scolarité libre dans des écoles religieuses (il y a une école catholique pour maternelle et primaire, apparemment, sur tout le pays). Et quasi aucune de scolarité à maison chez des parents religieux.

Ma mère et moi nous étions victimes de cette préférence en 1983.

Certains prétendent l'histoire littérale de la Genèse immorale, par des frères et sœurs qui se mariaient la génération après Adam et Ève, ou par le nombre de personnes dont innocents, que Dieu tuait.

Où vont-ils fixer la limite ? Les premiers-nés d'Égypte aussi comprenaient quelques innocents, vont-ils dire que l'histoire de l'Exode ne soit pas d'histoire littérale ? Quand Jérusalem tombe après d'avoir rejeté Jésus-Christ, il y avait certes aussi des petits innocents, doit un Chrétien alors s'abstiner de dire que Dieu ait jugé les Juifs ?

Et comment serait une source de l'humanité, même subsidiaire, indépendante d'Adam, pas de la théologie beaucoup pire que quoi Dieu ait fit une exception sur les lois qui désormais interdisent, comme inceste, des relations entre frères et sœurs ?

Ken Ham souligne que l'humanité errante avait l'occasion de se répentir et en ne profita pas, hormis les huit sur l'Arche. Vrai. Il dit que c'est uniquement beaucoup plus tard que Dieu interdit les relations entre frères et sœurs quand le génome est dégradé, dans la loi de Moïse. Je suis en désaccord de Ken Ham, et avec St. Augustin, je soutiens que là-dessus la Loi ne fait qu'appliquer la loi naturelle, mais dont le contenu réel était tel que les premiers frères et sœurs, fils et filles d'Adam et d'Ève, ne tombaient pas sous l'interdit. Je vous renvoie à Cité de Dieu, Livre XV, chapitre 16.

Pour Ken Ham, Jésus est à la fois l'Arche et la Porte de l'Arche. Pour nous, l'Arche est l'Église catholique. La porte en est Jésus.

Pour Ken Ham, les athées n'ont aucune base ojective pour dire que le "génocide" qu'était le Déluge soit objectivement mauvais, pour moi, d'abord, il y a des Chrétiens libéraux parmi les manifestants, je les connais mieux que Ken Ham, et ensuite, même si un instinct moral est dépourvu de sa base logique, pourvu qu'il ne soit pas erroné, il a droit à réponse, et oui, comme il dit, Dieu est maître de la vie qu'Il a Lui-Même créé, mais aussi, les conditions sociétales d'avant le Déluge étaient insoutenables. On était poussé dans le péché. On essayait de se tirer en innocence, avec sa conscience, on se ertrouvait poussé vers la confession sinon la croyance de l'erreur, vers les actes contraires à la conscience. La terre était devenu une antéchambre de l'Enfer et le chemin qui conduisait à la vie laissait de la place pour huit personnes. Noé, sa femme, les trois fils, leurs trois femmes. Et probablement un ou deux vieillards qui venaient de mourir un peu avant le Déluge aussi.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Repos de Sainte Brigitte de la Suède
23.VII.2026

Romae natalis sanctae Birgittae Viduae, quae, post multas sanctarum locorum peregrinationes, divino afflata Spiritu, quievit. Ipsius autem festivitas octavo Idus Octobris celebratur.

Oui, je sais, ce n'est pas sa fête, mais quand même ... elle est célébré le 8 octobre.

Bonum Festum Sanctae Mariae Magdalenae

Christifidelibus lectoribus exopto./HGL

Apud Massiliam, in Gallia, natalis sanctae Mariae Magdalenae, de qua Dominus ejecit septem daemonia, et quae ipsum Salvatorem a mortuis resurgentem prima videre meruit.

Note on Crusades

As a friend of mine on FB noted:

The Most Recent Crusade Began in Spain 90 Years Ago Today

He seems to have been off by a few days, this was 20 July and the rising started on the 17 July. Never mind, up to today, I was confusing Niceto Alcalá-Zamora (the president who went into exile) with José María Gil-Robles y Quiñones (who was leader of CEDA, which I thought was the party in government and hence that of the president who would have been its leader ...)

Have Crusades involved abusive events?

The First Crusade involved the sack of Jerusalem and on part of the popular Crusade sacking of Jews in the Rhineland. The one approved by Pope Pius XI involved Badajoz.

Do abuses like these make a Crusade unjust?

Usually not, since the provocation (like harrassing of pilgrims by Seljuks or Red Terror involving the killing of Calvo Sotelo and José Antonio Primo de Rivera) is more typical of the régime one crusades against than the abuse of the leaders of the Crusade.

After Badajoz, Franco told Yagüe off. Nothing more like that, or Franco would even ally with the Reds to get rid of the Rifans.

At the sack of Jerusalem, Geoffrey of Bouillon did what he could to stop it, and succeeded on the third day. He marked his distance from the acts by refusing to wear a crown (also in reference to Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, not to forget).

In the Rhineland, he wasn't there to try to stop anything, the leadership was different. Peter the Hermit took his distance from that popular Crusade bc of such events.

Meanwhile, the Seljuk rulers of Palestine had harrassed pilgrims for long, and Manuel Azaña seemed to have no interest in repressing the Red Terror, though it was nominally peacetime and it would have been easier for him to do so, in theory, than for Franco to keep an eye on how Mola or Yagüe were behaving.

Please note, the bloodiest acts under Franco's own direct command in Spain were in the Asturias, 1934, where he was not remotely anything like chief of state. Once the Spanish Crusade began, with him taking over after Sanjurjo, things under his command were among the cleanest in all of the Spanish war, left or right sympathies, wrong or right sides.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Mary Magdalene
22.VII.2026

Apud Massiliam, in Gallia, natalis sanctae Mariae Magdalenae, de qua Dominus ejecit septem daemonia, et quae ipsum Salvatorem a mortuis resurgentem prima videre meruit.

Alex Yordanov Objected

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Spidey Fallacy Two Debunks · New blog on the kid: Alex Yordanov Objected · Perspective on the Children's Crusade

I'm right now in a library.

It doesn't allow viewing or making comments under youtubes, but does allow viewing notifications, including about comments.

Now, previously, the comments under this video, insofar as mine or adressed to me:

This Terrible Atheist Meme About the Gospels Must Stop
Testify | 16 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYULmDa_NSo

... have been posted on this post:

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Spidey Fallacy Two Debunks
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2026/07/spidey-fallacy-two-debunks.html

Right when I left the cyber and went to the library, where I can't answer, Alex Yordanov made these points:

And why are you telling me this?!? A lot of fictional stories are taken as history, specifically atheist history like the baby crusades. Just saying, it's meant to be history, is ...

That's completely different text. You made the claim that,, Fictional writing doesn't explain institutions ", which I used this comment to say that you are wrong. I...

Ah, why didn't he say so earlier.

No, I didn't make the claim that fictional writing doesn't explain institutions. I made the claim that fictional stories don't explain real institutions. As an example, Spiderman features a newspaper called The Daily Bugle. If Spiderman had instead had Peter Parker as journalist on New York Times or New York Herald Tribune, Spiderman would have had to deal with real life owners and real life famous journalists on these papers. In 1941, or 1963, instead of J. Jonah Jameson, one would have had to deal with James Reston:

After working briefly for the Springfield, Ohio, Daily News, he joined the Associated Press in 1934. He moved to the London bureau of The New York Times in 1939, but returned to New York in 1940.

In 1942, he took a leave of absence to establish a U.S. Office of War Information in London. In 1945, following the end of World War II, he rejoined The New York Times as a national correspondent in Washington, D.C..

In 1948, he was appointed diplomatic correspondent.[5] In 1953, he became bureau chief and columnist.

Reston served as associate editor of The New York Times from 1964 to 1968, executive editor from 1968 to 1969, and vice president from 1969 to 1974. He wrote a nationally syndicated column from 1974 until 1987, when he became a senior columnist. During the Nixon administration, he was on U.S. president Richard Nixon's list of political opponents

Or with Ogden Mills Reid, Whitelaw Reid (one of his sons), Ogden Reid / Ogden Rogers Reid (who was also in the House of Representatives and an Ambassador to Israel), and John Hay Whitney (an Ambassador to the UK).

Of course the fictional writing in Spiderman could have included and explained either of these papers, but as their real story was already well established, Marvel Comics couldn't have replaced that real story with a fictional one. They would have had to give the real story or an approximation, or a conspiracy theory for which the real story could be presented as a front, credibly, they couldn't just make up a fictional story instead of the real one.

So, even in a fictional writing, there would be no fictional story to explain the real institutions of New York Times or New York Herald Tribune.

Now, Alex Yordanov (wonder if he's a Bulgarian politician*) made two claims that are visible in this preview. By the way, if he is that politician, I resent a man of 74 talking down to a man of 57 with comments like "your childish game" and things. I also find it less appropriate in a debate that cares for precise nuance, as mine does, to get intercepted by someone who is obviously using google translate.** Or not. I tried to translate and backtranslate, didn't give his resumé, so I'll assume he's simply resuming what he thought I meant. But here are the claims:

1) I'm wrong that fictional writing does not explain institutions (I presume he means real ones), no example given.
2) A lot of fictional stories are taken as history, example given the Children's Crusade.***

Now, it would seem the Children's Crusade is not actually a fiction. It may be fake news, or history that got distorted, according to the Dutch scholar Peter Raedts, but it isn't a fictional story that was then mistaken as a true history. If anything other than true history, it is a distortion of real history, and I never claimed real history never gets distorted.

The event is purported to take place in 1212, and the sources are, by Peter Raedts divided into:

1. Contemporary sources written by 1220;
2. Sources written between 1220 and 1250 (the authors could have been alive at the time of the crusade but wrote their memories down later);
3. Sources written after 1250 by authors who received their information second or third hand.

This obviously means, even according to an extreme sceptic of the story, there were contemporary sources. In other words, it is not fiction. After Peter Raedts one scholar came forward with this claim:

At least one source, that of a man simply known as Otto the last puer, was written by an individual who claimed to have participated in the Children's Crusade.

Sourced: Dickson, Gary (2008). Children's Crusade: Medieval History, Modern Mythistory

I don't know if Otto ultimus puer came forward before or after 1250, but obviously even if he had come out after 1250, given he was child or young teen in 1212, he could have been one participant who was still alive.

So, no, the example doesn't work. The Children's Crusade isn't a fictional story that got taken for real history, and the origin is not actually atheists trying to bash Medieval Christendom. Now, back to Peter Raedts:

It is only in the later non-authoritative narratives that a "children's crusade" is implied by such authors as Vincent of Beauvais, Roger Bacon, Thomas of Cantimpré, Matthew Paris and many others.

Vincent of Beauvais died in 1264. Even if his account is after 1250, he was a contemporary. And Beauvais and Cloyes, where Stephen of Cloyes started out, are both just a little further off from Paris than suburbs, Cloyes not too far from Orléans. Thomas of Cantimpré was about the same age as Stephen of Cloyes, but he was in Belgium. Cambrai is to Cologne, where Nicholas started a thing, a bit over 300 km, while Beavais is to Cloyes a little less than 200 on the shortest route. Matthew Paris, again, contemporary. Died 1259. Peter Raedt writing in 1977 wanted us to believe they understood an event of 1212 less well than he writing centuries later.

No, the Children's Crusade is not fiction, even if it has been abused by Atheists and even if some very legitimately wanting to counter them have claimed it is fiction.

His other point, I can only guess what institutions he meant. As said, I couldn't read his entire comment.

If he's a Christian, he might not mean the Catholic Church and Gospels + Acts, as an Atheist would. But he could mean things like Book of Mormon, Golden Plates, Rome founded by Romulus. I'll briefly deal with each.

The Book of Mormon is no more an origin story for the Mormon Church than the Gospels are. Mormons may claim both American Christianity up to Moroni and Apostolic Christianity as remote past history, but they do not claim either as direct origin contemporary to the start of the Church. By origin story of Mormons, I mean Joseph Smith, his claim to receive visions, his claim to receive Golden Plates.

Now Golden Plates. The claim could be totally fraudulent, it could also be demonic, it is nevertheless part of the real story of the origin of Mormons that the claim was at least made.

And Rome founded by Romulus, as a Catholic Christian, I must insist, in respect for St. Augustine and the Martyrology for Christmas Day:

Hebdomada sexagesima quinta, juxta Danielis prophetiam; Olympiade centesima nonagesima quarta; ab urbe Roma condita, anno septingentesimo quinquagesimo secundo; anno Imperii Octaviani Augusti quadragesimo secundo

And City of God, book III, chapter 3:°

There is no ground, then, for representing the gods (by whom, as they say, that empire stood, though they are proved to have been conquered by the Greeks) as being enraged at the Trojan perjury. Neither, as others again plead in their defense, was it indignation at the adultery of Paris that caused them to withdraw their protection from Troy. For their habit is to be instigators and instructors in vice, not its avengers. "The city of Rome," says Sallust, "was first built and inhabited, as I have heard, by the Trojans, who, flying their country, under the conduct of Æneas, wandered about without making any settlement." If, then, the gods were of opinion that the adultery of Paris should be punished, it was chiefly the Romans, or at least the Romans also, who should have suffered; for the adultery was brought about by Æneas' mother. But how could they hate in Paris a crime which they made no objection to in their own sister Venus, who (not to mention any other instance) committed adultery with Anchises, and so became the mother of Æneas? Is it because in the one case Menelaus was aggrieved, while in the other Vulcan connived at the crime? For the gods, I fancy, are so little jealous of their wives, that they make no scruple of sharing them with men. But perhaps I may be suspected of turning the myths into ridicule, and not handling so weighty a subject with sufficient gravity. Well, then, let us say that Æneas is not the son of Venus. I am willing to admit it; but is Romulus any more the son of Mars? For why not the one as well as the other? Or is it lawful for gods to have intercourse with women, unlawful for men to have intercourse with goddesses? A hard, or rather an incredible condition, that what was allowed to Mars by the law of Venus, should not be allowed to Venus herself by her own law. However, both cases have the authority of Rome; for Cæsar in modern times believed no less that he was descended from Venus, than the ancient Romulus believed himself the son of Mars.

Let me highlight the last sentence:

However, both cases have the authority of Rome; for Cæsar in modern times believed no less that he was descended from Venus, than the ancient Romulus believed himself the son of Mars.

In other words, it's not Patristic tradition to doubt Rome was founded by Romulus.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Praxedis of Rome
21.VII.2026

Romae sanctae Praxedis Virginis, quae, in omni castitate et lege divina cum esset erudita, vigiliis et orationibus atque jejuniis assidue vacans, quievit in Christo, sepultaque est, juxta sororem suam Pudentianam, via Salaria.

PS, excuse an oversight, here is the article on Children's Crusade:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade

PPS, next day I'm able to access the full comments:

That's completely different text. You made the claim that,, Fictional writing doesn't explain institutions ", which I used this comment to say that you are wrong. I also said in my previous comment that CONTEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT. You did something I like to call , target change. We know Joseph Smith existed since there are historical records of him outside the Book of Mormon, just like there are outside records confirming the Bible. If anything Joseph Smith not understanding events of which he is outside observer as much as anyone else, (a lot of people didn't know the official date of Independence) , proves he wasn't fictional character, we never made claim it PROVES HIS WORD. You are attacking a claim we never made. Testify himself saying multiple times in the video ,, That's not prove", the video never was trying to prove anything, it was answering why the Spiderman falacy was illigatimate.

1) I was not attacking the idea that historicity proves the divinity of Jesus, since I didn't find it, I was just distinguishing what a good grasp on my answer to the Spiderman fallacy can and can't establish, historicity in a general sense, yes, inerrancy or divinity, no.
2) The thing is, Joseph Smith is part of the Mormon account of how the Mormon Church as such, as distinct from the Apostolic Church and the supposed American covenant people, came about. The content of Book of Mormon is irrelevant, like the Gospels, because it's not about immediate origins, but about supposed predecessors in the far off past. Mormons are as restorationist about Nephite Church as they are about the Apostolic Church, affirming unbroken continuity with neither.

And why are you telling me this?!? A lot of fictional stories are taken as history, specifically atheist history like the baby crusades. Just saying, it's meant to be history, is unnecessary to say , It's obvious, but I guess pseudo-intellectuals with nothing important to say must always point obvious factor we all see . The Baby crusades is also meant to be taken as history, does this give it any credit.

Again missing a distinction of mine. Fiction is in fact not meant to be taken as history. Real history is, fake history is, fiction isn't.

Children's Crusade may or may not involve a gross misunderstanding, but is not even fake history, it's real history.

Then there is "taken as history by the first [known] audience." If the first known audience about the Children's Crusade had been pupils in Communist Bulgarian schools, the fact it was taken as history would not have mattered, it would not have made any argument for the history being real. But when the thing taken as history is either close to (purported) events or the origin story of the audience taking it for history, when that audience is a community, it matters. Vincent of Beauvais was close enough in time for fake history to be a tour de force needing explanation in the case of the Children's Crusade. Earliest known late OT readers and commenters on Genesis viewed this as the origin of the people which from Exodus became their own. Gospels fit both criteria where "meant as history" makes "fake history" hard to argue. Book of Mormon fits neither./HGL

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandar_Yordanov

If it isn't he, the politician might do well to state he has no youtube or the youtuber to state he's not the politician.

** English to Bulgarian:
Fake origin stories don't explain real institutions. / Фалшивите истории за произход не обясняват истинските институции.
Back:
False origin stories do not explain real institutions.

To Macedonian:
...Лажните приказни за потеклото не ги објаснуваат вистинските институции.
Back:
False origin stories do not explain real institutions.

*** That he called it the "baby crusade" is an indication that he's not familiar with the English term. In fact, he could have been reading up in Italian:

fanciulli = children, boys, little ones, infants, babes, young, and Children's Crusade = Crociata dei fanciulli

° https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/120103.htm