Friday, 24 January 2025

Conversion of St. Paul, Scott Hahn, Sharing


Scott Hahn on the Conversion of St. Paul
St. Paul Center | 25 Jan. 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UpYVGOaubA


Happy Feast!

[more comments, side issues]

14:33 I would consider St. Peter gathering the letters of St. Paul does constitute a formal canonisation, which however didn't exclude that in the councils from 382 to 401 or those of Florence (I think) and Trent.

One and the same truth may be object of more than one infallible statement (provided they don't contradict each other). This is obviously so with the canon of Scripture, it would be idiotic to argue the Church was in a total flux about canon up to 382, but arguably with lots of other stuff. 1859 reflects an older, I would say infallible, decision which was forgotten in (much of) the Latin West, but present in Greek and Coptic texts of Sub tuum praesidium, and quite possibly in some hymns by Sts Ephrem and Roman the Melod (though I don't know those ones in detail).

This prayer would not have happened if the Church hadn't had certainty of the complete sinlessness, also regarding original sin, of the Blessed Virgin, which means, someone, somewhere, though the occasion is lost, infallibly pronounced Her without Sin. From since forever.

18:09 Well, he did apply his mind sufficiently to philosophy to mention basically Geocentrism as a proof of God.

Romans 1.

What exact proof of God is he talking about? DNA? The finetuning of constants relevant for atoms and galaxies? No. Neither of these are visible to the naked eye, the latter not even in any kind of either microscope or telescope. And neither of these could convict people worshipping Hercules (a cult which in its machism led to homosexuality) instead of the guy who'se turning the cosmos around Earth each single day.

That's what St. Thomas calls "the first and most obvious way" while Catholics who are NOT geocentrics tend to prefer "the first necessary being" i e the third way. Revd. Anders Piltz introduced me to all five of the ways (an uncredited extra course in Medieval Latin), but he clearly preferred the third way. And he was no geocentric. Coincidence? I don't think so.

A child kicks his legs rhythmically through excess, not absence, of life. Because children have abounding vitality, because they are in spirit fierce and free, therefore they want things repeated and unchanged. They always say, "Do it again"; and the grown-up person does it again until he is nearly dead. For grown-up people are not strong enough to exult in monotony. But perhaps God is strong enough to exult in monotony. It is possible that God says every morning, "Do it again" to the sun; and every evening, "Do it again" to the moon.


The one not explicitly Geocentric modern Catholic who got what St. Paul, St. John of Damascus, St. Thomas Aquinas and Riccioli referred to as proving God from the daily motion of heaven. GKC. [Orthodoxy]

is revealed from heaven = natural theology involving how the heavens go
his eternal power also = the sheer inexhaustion of turning a globe of approx. 1 light day radius around tiny Earth each day no fatigue or day off (Joshua's Long Day wasn't one!*) since 5250 years or so earlier (1,917,523 turns or so if St. Paul wrote AD 51 on the anniversary of creation)

Therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, because he did these things on the sabbath But Jesus answered them: My Father worketh until now; and I work
[John 5:16-17]

Jews here is retrospectively and anachronistically resuming enemies of Christ in the sect which was at this time goading Rome to persecute Christians. It doesn't mean the entirety of the Jewish nation of Our Lord's day, from which also Christian Palestinians descend. But the point here is, God the Father and God the Son work ... every day including Sabbaths ... sounds like a work involved in day and night, right?

20:49 You know, St. Clemens Maria Hofbauer also had a beloved physician. Johann Emmanuel Veith, a convert from Judaism, cofounder of Christian Social movement, and an author who did Creation Science.**

Pope St. Pius X canonised Hofbauer the same year as he allowed Vigouroux to greenlight discussions about the Day-Age theory. 1909.

Should be taken into account before you pretend (or before anyone pretends, it's the generic you) that Pope St. Pius X took the side of Old Earth Creationism through his Biblical Commission and Fr. Vigouroux.


More content in this format, link to video and comments, sometimes on side issues, on the blogs:
Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere (ENG)
Répliques Assorties (FR)
Antworten nach Sorte (DE)



* I e, it wasn't a day off.
** J. E. Veith, Die Anfänge der Menschenwelt, Vienna, 1865

No comments:

Post a Comment