Wednesday, 1 March 2023

As Long as I am Not Calumnied as "Homosexual" I am Not Directly Concerned with What Solution Catholicism Proposes Such People


I am, however, concerned with orthodoxy versus heterodoxy. I am also concerned with Apologetics, and in the extremely homoliberal Sweden, I was taunted "so, you don't believe homosexual people have a right to sex" and came up with an answer, yes, they have exactly the same right to heterosexual sex within marriage as anyone else, if they want it, they are just less likely to want it.

Now, I was watching a video by Michael Lofton and Mike Lewis.

A Charitable Discussion with Mike Lewis on the State of the Church
Reason & Theology, 7 Oct. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jYlBND8itM


In the chat, the following is visible as criticism of Mike Lewis being invited.

Pinesap
Why was one of Mike Lewis’s writers, Paul Fahey, advocating for “gay chaste relationships” on Holy Smokes the other day?

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Papal Lifter
“The Church says nothing about ‘can two men or two women who are attracted to each other enter into a committed relationship..a committed chaste relationship.’” - Paul Fahey, writer for WherePeterIs

Papal Lifter
On the Holy Smokes Podcast

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Papal Lifter
It’s unacceptable Mr. Lewis. It is saying that same sex attracted people should enter into an occasion for sin.

Tom Gjokaj
And what's even sadder is Mike Lewis doesn't admit he's a leftist

christianman73
An opinion that one WPI author may express, somewhere, online, at a site that is *not even WPI* , should not be attributed to the editorial position of WPI.

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Pinesap
Paul Fahey also said the Church was “homophobic” and treats SSA people unjustly, which is entirely incorrect

Papal Lifter
You should not platform people who dissent from the Church, and I am talking about Mr Lewis platforming Fahey.


The position of Paul Fahey is not mine.

My own is, and this may not work for all homosexual people, but also will not not work for all of them, homosexual people are free to marry, as long as the couples are heterosexual.

Jonas Gardell is or up to recently was blatantly homosexual. The mother of Amos Gardell is less known, but also lesbian. They have a son, the already named Amos.

My position is, he is free to marry her. I mean morally free, he would not be doing something wrong in so doing.

I do not see any problem for stating this as the solution, along with, for other people, more like solitude or not too close friendships to stay completely chaste. And I see the choice as belonging to each, not as being imposed by psychologist or priest.

In case "Papal Lifter" were to object to this as "an occasion for the sin of infidelity" - I'd have to say stop. He'd be fulfilling end times prophecies about departures from the faith, if he said that:

Now the Spirit manifestly saith, that in the last times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error, and doctrines of devils, Speaking lies in hypocrisy, and having their conscience seared, Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by the faithful, and by them that have known the truth.

I Tim 4:1-3.

But what about "believing the science"?

National Review: One Hundred Years Ago, ‘Following the Science’ Meant Supporting Eugenics
08/02/2022 This article was originally posted at National Review. / Joseph Loconte
https://www.josephloconte.com/commentary/national-review-following-science-supporting-eugenics/


Now, if anyone believes the science of "homosexuals cannot really marry" (which Kinsey need not have agreed on), he's arguably into another Science idolatry, and one which like that of eugenics 100 years ago is depriving people from marriage and from parenthood. But if anyone is into the science expert opinion that I am homosexual, he's into an oracle of Delphi that I know spoke a lie. However, the oracles of Delphi of old were self fulfilling prophecies, with the victim bringing about the fulfilment of it by believing it, this new kind of oracle of Delphi is also self fulfilling, and it's unfortunately enough that surroundings of the victim believe it to make such things happen as to make the oracle at least seem likely retrospectively.

So, no, I reject as a superstition such "science" as says that homosexual people cannot want a heterosexual marriage and, cannot really consent to it, and as as very blind subservience to superstition providers to believe anyone pretending me homosexual. Or hoping to offer me the solution outlined by Paul Fahey, according to above.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Sts Hermes and Hadrian of Marseille
1.III.2023

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