Palaeolithic Post-Flood or 2957 to 2607 BC, Language, Yes

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I'm copying a few questions from quora. And answering the bunch in one go.

What language did the Paleolithic people / Europeans speak?

Some kind of Hebrew. At Babel (2607 to — crucially — 2556 BC or rather forty of the 51 years) the line of Heber did not participate, and therefore was not given a new language very different from the one they had spoken before.

That said, between 2957 BC and 1510 BC, when Moses started writing, there are 1447 years. Unlike the miraculous change of language, they would have gone through natural language change during this time.

What is the evidence for the widespread use of language by humans during the Paleolithic?

Tools, clothing, jewelry, fireplaces, dwelling places, the 32 symbols collected by Genevieve von Petzinger.

Dolní Věstonice* is an open-air site located along a stream. Its people hunted mammoths and other herd animals, saving mammoth and other bones that could be used to construct a fence-like boundary, separating the living space into a distinct inside and outside. In this way, the perimeter of the site would be easily distinguishable. At the center of the enclosure was a large bonfire and huts were grouped together within the barrier of the bone fence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doln%C3%AD_V%C4%9Bstonice_(archaeological_site)

You don't organise space like that without language.

How to find the common signs that bridged dozens of caves and 30,000 years of human habitation. Over seven months in 2013 and 2014, von Petzinger and her husband visited and documented 52 cave sites in Spain, Portugal, France and Italy. She selected sites where researchers had noted geometric signs but hadn’t recorded details. After her fieldwork was complete, she analyzed all the signs she’d catalogued. And what she saw made the hair on the back of her neck stand up: across 30,000 years and the entire continent of Europe, a mere 32 signs repeated themselves over and over. How could she explain this continuity? “That really small number tells you that they must have been meaningful to the people who were using them, because they were replicating them,” she says.

What the mysterious symbols made by early humans can teach us about how we evolved
Jun 7, 2017 / Patrick D'Arcy
https://ideas.ted.com/what-the-mysterious-symbols-made-by-early-humans-can-teach-us-about-how-we-evolved/

I disagree about the number of years, instead of 30 000, I obviously posit most of this was during the 350 years I mentioned. But you don't select symbols without a language.

What was the religion of Paleolithic people?

I think there were c. 2 or 3 religions.

• belief in the true God, and in the story of Genesis 2 to 9 (Genesis 1:1 to 2:4 may have been revealed later to Moses)**
• magical practises not quite in accordance with previous
• possibily Satanism, but it's also possible this ended with the Flood and didn't resurface prior to the Neolithic (Herxheim)

Did humans speak and learn to speak back in the Pleistocene and in the Paleolithic?

Yes. If you speak, you teach your children to speak and you learned to speak from your parents.

How did the Paleolithic people communicate?

By spoken language, and probably by 32 symbols as well.

Could Paleolithic people have survived in the ways that they did without language?

With key words "in the ways that they did" — no. You don't make tally sticks or organise space into inside / outside of the homestead or make jewelry of claws of bears unless you can speak with your fellow people of what you are doing.

There was an evil and racist theory stating the people back then were pre-human. Since parrots show mimicry and since cave art is a kind of mimicry, cave art didn't need human souls or language. In fact, if they had had human souls, so some argued (back in the seminaries in the day of Pius XII), they would have during all of this time invented agriculture, but they didn't, so, they were not real human image bearers of God.

The answer to this argument can take three forms, all of which are valid, and apart from the abovementioned counterproof.

• The time was not tens of thousands of years, but only 350 years.***
• In the time after the Flood, the climate was mostly unfavourable to agriculture, it was the ice age and for after the ice age, it was not yet certain what seeds would grow best in the new climate. One knew agriculture as well as metallurgy in theory, it's a bit similar in finding new access to the ores.
• Agriculture need not have been totally absent. The period ends with Noah's death. Oldest wine we have found is from ...
  
  

  The earliest evidence of wine is from the present-day Georgia (6000 BCE), Persia (5000 BCE), Italy, and Armenia (4000 BCE).

  
  
  ... 6000 BC, carbon dated, i e 2318 BC for real° and this is 289 years after Noah died, but he certainly did make wine before he died, as we know from the Bible. Wheat and ground wheat have been found dated to 20 000 BP = 18 000 BC = between 2738 and 2712 BC.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris, Georges Pompidou
7th LD after Pentecost
7.VII.2024

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* "It dates to approximately 26,000 BP, as supported by radiocarbon dating." = 24 000 BC = some time between 2835 and 2811 BC:

2835 av. J.-Chr.

6,906 pcm, donc daté à 24 935 av. J.-Chr.

2811 av. J.-Chr.

7,952 pcm, donc daté à 23 761 av. J.-Chr.

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** I think that Ramayana is events from this period, but that Mahabharata, prior to idolatrous changes, is about things in Genesis 4 and 6, and was believed by believers in the true God.

*** One added importance to Young Earth Creationism.

° Same link as note *.