To Some People "SSPX is in Schism" Means "Traditional Positions are Schismatic"

I agree SSPX is in schism or heresy, for Pope-sifting.

I agree that classic Sedevacantism in the sense of "we haven't had a Pope since 1958, we can't get one either" is also wrong, but at least it avoids Pope-sifting or partial obedience. In the version known as "Sedeprivationism" it doesn't avoid Pope-splitting in the sense of saying "so and so is materially Pope" (and that's why we can't get one) "but not formally Pope" (and that's why we can't obey him).

But I don't agree either of them has discredited the positions that were undermined and sometimes even directly contradicted.

For my part, so far, I obey Pope Michael II. That's one solution that avoids both.

Robert Sungenis thinks one can obey "Leo XIV" via his bishop, but if his bishop is OK with his traditional positions, the one who would be mine over here if "Leo XIV" were Pope, seemingly isn't.

CCC § 283 is heresy on any reading I can understand so far.

If "Leo XIV" or his men here want to say it's not contradicting Geocentrism or Young Earth Creationism, fine, let them show how it's compatible. But instead of even trying, some seem to want to pretend I'm a Flat-Earther, just because their favourite Secularist dope in "Science" (meaning Evolutionism) has come out with "Young Earth is like Flat Earth" when it isn't, or because their Ecumenic partners among Muslims are telling them I oppose Galileo because I'm a Flat Earther, because some Muslims here are that bad at the history of Christendom.

Meanwhile, one hardliner present in Écône, Fr. Paul Robinson, a man who defended not even making a pause for hearing what pretendedly "his Pope" had to say, is equally opposed to Young Earth and suggests that this belief somehow smacks of Protestantism, when it is that of St. Augustine, as you can see from City of God.

Or some will say "Pius XII allowed the belief that Adam's body developed from non-human life-forms" when he actually allowed a discussion behind closed doors. And as far as the Roman Curia was concerned, thank you Christine Pedotti, for the info if not the view point, the discussion was about a decade later mature to close into dogmatising Creationism. Which is not what the council did.

So, trying to push back on SSPX or appeal to Pius XII, is not how one can reasonably convince me. But some over here don't care about "reasonable" in relation to me.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
VIIth Lord's Day after Pentecost
12.VII.2026