Quibbles on "Jupiter in Pisces"

Jupiter in Pisces, Right Now · Quibbles on "Jupiter in Pisces"

Jupiter sign, seen from Earth is Pisces. This means we have a straight line from Pisces to Virgo, as when I was born, and Jupiter and Earth are in it.

They are in it with reversed places, back then Jupiter was nearer Virgo and Earth nearer Pisces (this is what Jupiter in Virgo meant) and now Earth is nearer Virgo and Jupiter nearer Pisces and so one says Jupiter is in Pisces.

The Sun was between Earth and Jupiter back then. It isn't now, Sun is neither in Virgo nor Pisces. This means, the Sun is not on same line between Virgo and Pisces as Earth and Jupiter are.

This means, from the Sun, Jupiter's sign won't be Pisces. If it is from Earth, this is because Earth is close to but not in the Sun and standing out at an angle. Sun is in cancer, and this means Earth sign from Sun is Capricorn. Cancer is two from Virgo, Capricorn two from Pisces. If Earth sees Jupiter in Pisces, perhaps Sun "sees" Jupiter in Capricorn. Or Aquarius.

On one of the occasions, Jupiter was behind the Sun, so the line up is basically Earth, Sun, Jupiter, and on the other, the two line ups tend to put Sun behind Earth in relation to Jupiter.

Virgo, Jupiter, Sun, Earth, Pisces (back when I was born)

vs
Virgo, Jupiter, Earth, Pisces
with Cancer, Sun, Earth, Capricorn

On one of these occasions, don't ask me which one, Jupiter would have been in a retrograde as seen from Earth. (I suppose it could be now, as - in Heliocentric terms, the ones I have been taught, Earth would circle Sun faster as to angles than Jupiter does, but ask someone else).

Now, the point is, that this is complicated with Tychonian orbits doesn't mean it's not complicated with supposed Heliocentric ones, as shown (I basically mentioned line ups without mentioning what moved between Earth and Sun, and supposing Jupiter did move and signs of Zodiac were stable in relation to either Sun or Earth or both).

With angelic movers, the Tychonian orbits are feasible.

With extrapolation from previous observed movements, these ones are foreseeable too, with either system. Without such, we would not know if Jupiter was in Virgo then and is in Pisces now, or whether it was in Pisces then and is in Virgo now.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
4.VII.2021
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