Thursday 27 June 2024

I Wrote Something Critical of the Handling of Göbekli Tepe


Göbekli Tepe Right Now: Tourism Over Archaeology · I Wrote Something Critical of the Handling of Göbekli Tepe

And I based it on a video which has received a video answer:

Göbekli Tepe conspiracy theories: Rupert Soskin pushes back.
The Prehistory Guys | 25 June 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvV4oL0O70Y


The olive orchards seem fair enough. Farmers foreseeing they'll have to sell their land are trying to make it more valuable, but the idea of them going to sell the land in the first place is perhaps due to the handling by Davos deciders.

The percentage excavated being the same while much more is dug up, because the view of what not is yet dug up being enlarged, possible. I have seen things in the loading of a computer view which would even make it probable.

Two things where I am not quite sold on Rupert Soskin and his way of seeing things.

  • It is true that deciders in Davos are to a very high degree simply interested in making money. They are however also interested in remaining free to do so among their own class, not necessarily trickling down to small commerce, and wary of things that could come into the way of that. Religious fanaticism, or what they would term such, being one of the risk factors they try to manage.

    The news about the climate change is another risk they are (rightly or wrongly) counting on, so, again, one of the risk factors from their pov could be climate deniers part of whom would be what, again, they would term as religious fanatics.

    Covering up the kind of things Graham Hancock hopes to find might not be that much their thing, Mr. Soskin may have a fair point that finding a link to Atlantis would boost tourism, and therefore be in their interest, not sth they would like to cover up.

    Finding literal bricks baked in fire and bitumen for mortar in Göbekli Tepe, as a clincher it was in fact the Babel of Genesis 11, could be less to their taste if they count Christian Fundamentalism (Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant) as "Religious Fanaticism" and therefore a risk factor. They might even be willing to forego some tourist money to win that side of the culture war.

    Let's also recall, Göbekli Tepe is in a Muslim majority country. The Quran does not endorse the story of the Tower of Babel, so, Turkish authorities would be more hostile to such discoveries than to discoveries about the Ark, since the Flood is endorsed by the Quran, unlike the Tower of Babel.

  • He denied the deliberate burial:

    because 1:17 it's a misconception that's been hanging 1:18 around for years um it's been known for 1:21 a long time now the Göbekli Tepe wasn't 1:25 deliberately buried uh that hypothesis 1:28 was put forward years ago I think by 1:30 Klaus Schmidt himself as a possible 1:32 explanation for the fill as far as it 1:35 had been excavated at that point um but 1:40 as excavations progressed it became 1:42 clear that the fill was caused by [...] gradual slumping and settling 1:51 of the hill and the most obvious 1:54 evidence for this was that as they got 1:57 lower in the excavation some of the 1:58 pillars had been pushed over by the 2:01 weight of the slump um which that's 2:04 something that couldn't have happened if 2:06 it had been deliberately filled in from 2:08 the bottom


    • a) Would the fill have covered the topmost layers of Göbekli Tepe if it had been by gradual slumping? If the slumping was high enough to cover the top most and standing pillars, how would it not have pushed them over as well, and that above the fill?
    • b) I accept that the site was not filled up while the lower pillars were still standing, but what if they were pushed aside, by earthquake or human hand, before it was all filled up?


But, that said, his voice deserves to be heard, since his side has been criticised.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
St. Ladislaus of Hungary
27.VI.2024

Varadini, in Hungaria, sancti Ladislai Regis, qui clarissimis miraculis usque ad diem hodiernum coruscat

Varadinum was in Hungary, but Oradea today is in Romania (near the Hungarian border).

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