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I think so.
Why?
Introibo Ad Altare Dei : Choosing A Marriage Partner In Today's World
https://introiboadaltaredei2.blogspot.com/2023/05/choosing-marriage-partner-in-todays.html
There are things he learned from Fr. DePauw about chosing the right one which are excellent stuff - if you have the patience or the chastity to afford patience.
But it seems, Fr. DePauw's position was, "marriage is a vocation" ...
Never forget that it has always been taught by the Church that there are four vocations given to humanity by God. The word "vocation" comes from the Latin "vocare" meaning "to call or summon." Each of us is summoned by God to sanctify both ourselves and the world in one of four callings: the priesthood (for men only); the religious life (nuns, brothers, monks);the married life; and the single life. Marriage is therefore both a vocation and a sacrament. It must be entered into, like any vocation, intelligently and after prayerful consideration. The most important thing you can do is to pray often .
This is Introibo's words, but claimed to be part of a compilation of what he learned from Fr DePauw.
Now, here is a very different view of what vocations are and how marriage and single life in the world should be classified:
Is Marriage a Vocation?
JAN 16, 2018 BROTHER ANDRÉ MARIE
https://catholicism.org/is-marriage-a-vocation.html
Living well and generously in the state of life (single, married) or “secondary vocation” (priesthood or religious life) we have embraced is the way each of us will sanctify ourselves in our primary vocation, that of the baptized.
I. e. priesthood and religious life are both states in life and vocations. Being married or single in the world are states in life, but not vocations.
It seems to me, this position is the more correct one. At least, they are not usually vocations.
I commented under Introibo's post, not sure he will validate my comment, and I also sent an email to an Opus Dei site, which seems to agree with DePauw and with Introibo.
Historically, I think the idea of marriage as entered only as a vocation (for all and anyone who is married) is tied up with Martin Luther's idea that being a carpenter and a married man are as much of vocations as being clergy. He denied the vocation to monk or nun even existed. It is apparently also the position of Amoris Laetitia. I find Brother André Marie more reassuring to agree with than Bergoglio.
This also ties in with how much individual choice a Christian is supposed to have about his life. Some claim that the idea of chosing one's life is the Satanic rebellion, the Edenic disobedience, the fault of Babel. While Satan was a rebel, he was also and has been since, a tyrant. In Genesis 2, God spoke individually, "thou shalt not eat" and in the temptation of Genesis 3, Satan, the Old Serpent, spoke collectively "you shall be as gods, knowing good from evil" .... Crowley has less claim on being Satanic than either Nimrod or Antichrist, and his "do what thou wilt" is midway between Satan's temptation in its fullness and St. Augustine's "have charity, and do what thou wilt" ... there are Calvinists who pretend that chosing one's own spouse by oneself, instead of getting one from the family is repeat offense of the evil in Genesis 6 "took to themselves wives of all which they chose." This is a very different attitude from Catholic Church law that says the will of the two contrahends is sufficient for validity, even in the absence of parental consent, that disobeying parents is only normally a mortal sin, that the parents cannot force their children either way, that parental consent cannot replace the own consent.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Day after Ascension*
19.V.2023
* Not sure whether "day after Ascension" or "first Friday in Pentecost Novena" is the correct term ...
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