Russia Still Aborting Worse than the United States ?

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Anthony Stine Has a Point About Poland. Someone Hasn't About Me. · New blog on the kid: Russia Still Aborting Worse than the United States ?

For the US, it seems that post-Dobbs figures are lacking. But pre-Dobbs, US was not as blood-thirsty as Russia.

United States, pre-Dobbs:

A total of 3,613,647 births were registered in the United States in 2020.

Births : final data for 2020
2/7/2022 By Osterman, Michelle J. K.; Hamilton, Brady E.; Martin, Joyce A.
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/112078

https://dx.doi.org/10.15620/cdc:112078

The last year for which the CDC reported a yearly national total for abortions is 2021. It found there were 625,978 abortions in the District of Columbia and the 46 states with available data that year, up from 597,355 in those states and D.C. in 2020. The corresponding figure for 2019 was 607,720.

The last year for which Guttmacher reported a yearly national total was 2020. It said there were 930,160 abortions that year in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, compared with 916,460 in 2019.

What the data says about abortion in the U.S.
By Jeff Diamant, Besheer Mohamed and Rebecca Leppert March 25, 2024 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/03/25/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-us/

a linea: How many abortions are there in the U.S. each year?

Guttmacher:
930,160 / 3,613,647 * 1000 = 257 abortions per 1000 live births.
CDC:
597,355 / 3,613,647 * 1000 = 165 abortions per 1000 live births.

Russia:

Russia's abortions 2022: 506 000

(in 2000, it was 2 138 800, more than 4 times as much)

Number of abortions in Russia from 2000 to 2022
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1034529/russia-total-number-of-abortions/

Approximately 670,200 boys and 633,900 girls were born in Russia in 2022

(the increase after 2000 is already receding, it was highest 2014 and 2015, birth rates are now comparable to 2000)

Number of live births in Russia from 2000 to 2022, by gender
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1090889/number-of-live-births-in-russia-by-gender/

506,000 / (670,200 + 633,900) * 1000 = 388 abortions per 1000 live births.

United States, post-Dobbs:

What about very recent news?

New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

I refuse to make the link directly clickable, they pretend one should "fight back" against Dobbs.

In 2023, 3,596,017 births were registered in the United States, down 2% from 2022 (3,667,758) and 2021 (3,664,292) (Figure 1, Table 1).

Births in the United States, 2023
NCHS Data Brief No. 507, August 2024, Joyce A. Martin, M.P.H., Brady E. Hamilton Ph.D., and Michelle J.K. Osterman, M.H.S.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db507.htm

1,037,000 / 3,596,017 * 1000 = 288 abortions per 1000 live births.

Worse than US was in 2020, but still not as bad as Russia was in 2022.

Meanwhile, Poland:

Only 425 legal abortions were carried out in Poland in 2023

Number of legal abortions in Poland more than doubled in 2023
Jul 26, 2024 | Notes from Poland
https://notesfrompoland.com/2024/07/26/number-of-legal-abortions-in-poland-more-than-doubled-in-2023/

The number of live births in Poland reached over 272 thousand in 2023 and decreased by nearly 11 percent compared to the previous year.

Number of live births in Poland from 1950 to 2023
https://www.statista.com/statistics/957086/poland-number-of-live-births/

425 / 272 000 * 1000 = 1.5625 abortions per 1000 live births.

It's good news that this is much lower, not just than Russia, but than the United States, even. The bad news is that the number of live births is going down in Poland. In 1955 it was as high as 793 800!

So, possibly abortions outside the formal health care system were so many in the US, or possibly abortions in Russia sank so drastically during the war, that by now the US aborts more than Russia, in terms of per pregnancy, but neither of that is very probable. So, arguably, Russia is still aborting more than the US in terms of per live births. On the other hand, the US has more abortions in total. However, it is certain that both are aborting more than Poland is. Both counts.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
Deposition of St. Patient
Bishop of Lyon
11.IX.2024

PS, it can be mentioned that if the US has twice as many abortions as Russia, in 2023, US had way more than twice the population of Russia. The latter is just 43.243 % of the US population, but has 50 % or more of its abortions./HGL