Thursday, 24 April 2014

Chesterton vs Chisholm

Let us have a look at George Brock Chisholm shall we ... I will not be quoting Chesterton all along, but I defy any to say I misrepresent his position. He would for one thing have agreed that there is something to the contribution of "everyman", so he would not have minded me quoting wikipedia on him:

Brock Chisholm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Chisholm


Quoting from wiki
After the war, Chisholm pursued his lifelong passion of medicine, earning his M.D. from the University of Toronto by 1924 before interning in England, where he specialized in psychiatry.
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Could what he went through or did have something to do with his specialisation?

Let us see the list of WW-I Snipers, shall we:

World War I snipers
Australia Billy Sing
Britain Hesketh Hesketh-Prichard
Canada 
  • Brock Chisholm
  • Henry Norwest
  • Grey Owl
  • Johnson Paudash
  • Francis Pegahmagabow
  • Joseph Gregory
Newfoundland John Shiwak
New Zealand Richard Travis
United States Herman Davis


I met a sniper in Denmark. He had done his work in the Bosnia-Hercegovina war. He had killed a sniper who was Serbian and who was shooting down people who passed to get water. He still recalled it. He also was a user of cannabis.

Looking at someone through binoculars who cannot see you, and shoot him dead, that does something to you. And Brock Chisholm was into that business.

Other question, where did he study medicine?

In Canada. In a place where native minorities who had other beliefs or sometimes just other customs than the English speaking public were being targetted. Brock did avoid specialising in psychiatry there, but he came from that area. An area where it was seen as vital to the mental health of a young Inuit or Indian to be taken away from his parents, and where sometimes tuberculosis in resident schools were seen as a not too regrettable solution for the Native Problem.

As already outlined, the Catholic Church, despite accusations by Kevin D. Anett did not share that attitude. But perhaps - at least in some ways - Chisholm did.
Quoting from wiki
After six years in general practice in his native Oakville, he attended Yale University where he specialized in the mental health of children.
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And what is Yale ...?

It is a Puritan, New England University, like all of Ivy League. His specialisation into the mental health of children seems to indicate he took similar views as the Government of Toronto in those years.
Quoting from wiki
During this time, Chisholm developed his strong view that children should be raised in an "as intellectually free environment" as possible, independent of the prejudices and biases – political, moral and religious – of their parents.
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Chesterton insisted that God had given precisely the parents the right and duty to look after what prejudices and biasses their children were brought up in. And that an education free from bias simply did not exist.

Chisholm simply took the attitude prevalent in his Canada as to children of Inuits, Indians and Catholic French-Canadians and applied them a bit more broadly.

Chesterton would not have agreed with applying them to Indians and Inuits, let alone Catholic French-Canadians.
Quoting from wiki
At the outbreak of the Second World War, Chisholm rapidly rose in stature within the Canadian military and government.
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Ill boding.
Quoting from wiki
He joined the war effort as a psychiatrist dealing with psychological aspects of soldier training, before rising to the rank of Director General of the Medical Services, the highest position within the medical ranks of the Canadian Army. He was the first psychiatrist to head the medical ranks of any army in the world.
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Ill boding.

It seems very clear he "had had to" acquire some cynicism as a sniper and was more than willing to pass it on to soldiers.

And to psychiatrists.
Quoting from wiki
In 1944, the Canadian Government created the position of Deputy Minister of Health. Chisholm was first the person to occupy the post and held it until 1946.
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He did not use it, then, to end forced sterilisations on indigenous and on French Canadians. Because that did not end until the seventies.
Quoting from wiki
That same year, Chisholm took his views to the international scene, becoming the Executive Secretary of the Interim Commission of the World Health Organization, based in Geneva, Switzerland. He was one of 16 international experts consulted in drafting the agency's first constitution. The WHO became a permanent UN fixture in April 1948, and Chisholm became the agency's first Director-General on a 46–2 vote.
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That so many doctors voted for him in that assembly is distinctly illboding for those chosen to participate.

As previously said, the Physicians' Trial at Nuremberg was derisory. 20 were indicted, one was condemned.
Quoting from wiki
Chisholm was now in the unique position of being able to bring his views on the importance of international mental and physical health to the world.
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Mental health first?

Looks like him. And looks bad.
Quoting from wiki
Refusing re-election, he occupied the post until 1953, during which time the WHO dealt successfully with a cholera epidemic in Egypt, malaria outbreaks in Greece and Sardinia, and introduced shortwave epidemic-warning services for ships at sea.
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Even Antichrist must do some good things to some - otherwise he is not accepted.
Quoting from wiki
Chisholm was a controversial public speaker who nevertheless had great conviction, and drew much cynicism within the Canadian public for comments in the mid-1940s that children should not be encouraged to believe in Santa Claus.
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Chesterton and Tolkien very definitely were against him, then. And I think Christopher Tolkien was none the worse for it.
Quoting from wiki
Calls for his resignation as Deputy Minister of Health were quelled by his appointment as Executive Secretary of the WHO, but his public perception as "Canada's most famously articulate angry man" lingered.
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Thank God some sensible people were calling for his resignation.
Quoting from wiki
While Chisholm was Director of the UN from 1948–53, he was quoted as saying "To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas."
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Before definitely accusing him of saying such evil words, I would like a source. Beyond wiki. But to judge from the rest, this is not improbable.
Quoting from wiki
Chisholm was an Honorary President of the World Federalists of Canada, ...
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Unfortunately, I believe the wikipedians on this one.
Quoting from wiki
... President of the World Federation of Mental Health (1957–1958) and an Honorary Fellow of a number of prestigious medical associations.
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Unfortunately I have no trouble imagining this is the literal truth.

Both his involvement with international psychiatry (and this would probably have put him in a position to collaborate with Soviet Union's political Psychiatry, of which Christians, both as adult individuals and as children taken away from parents, were often enough victims), and his position to contaminate more than one medical association, including many prestigious ones, with his pestilential heresies about Mental Health.
Quoting from wiki
In 1959, the American Humanist Association named him Humanist of the Year. He received numerous honorary degrees, and was made a Companion of the Order of Canada in 1967.
Other article
The American Humanist Association (AHA) is an educational organization in the United States that advances Humanism, a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs, affirms the ability and responsibility of human beings to lead personal lives of ethical fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity. The mission of the American Humanist Association is to be a clear, democratic voice for Humanism in the United States, to increase public awareness and acceptance of Humanism, to establish, protect and promote the position of humanists in American society, and to develop and advance humanist thought and action.
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I believe the American Humanist Association was able to do such a thing, yes. Even if as Unitarian Chisholm was not technically "without theism or other supernatural beliefs".
Quoting from wiki
Chisholm married Grace McLean Ryrie on 21 June 1924, and had two children, Catherine Anne and Brock Ryrie. He died on 4 February 1971, in Veterans' Hospital, Victoria, British Columbia, after a series of strokes. He was a Unitarian.
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He married? He did some one thing as a normal man would?

Wait. He was married when he was 28. His wife was presumably not older than he (the wiki does not state her brith year). He was not early widowed or the wiki would have stated it. And yet they had only two children? Sounds as if they promoted contraception to me.

After all this, I would not have been surprised if he had been confessing Atheism or Agnosticism, and I am not surprised he was Unitarian. He was definitely not a Catholic, nor an Orthodox (at least not as previously to Romanides, who, like Brock Chisholm, favoured Puritan Ivy League over Oxford.

I will now quote the person through whom I came to hear of his cursed name.

too bad they do not call folks who are for abortion with some mental disorder. but if you pray a lot, they have a disorder for that, if u watch professional sports 'ALOT that not a disorder, if you pray lots of rosaries, that an obsessive disorder. sure looks like brock Chisholm got his way. every priest in America was taught in the seminary about the poisons of brock Chisholm most priests have wept about what Chisholm has done to America


The priests of US in the Catholic Church correspond, therein, [Update, I looked again at the quote: The priests of US in the Catholic Church do not correspond, in weeping over Chisholm ]pretty much to the Romanides denial of natural law and diagnostication of all non-Eastern-Orthodox religion as psycho-biological disorders.

But Chisholm himself was not priest, he was not Catholic, he was not Orthodox. He was a World War I sniper, he was a shrink, he was a Unitarian of so undevout cut (not like George MacDonald) that he was elected Humanist of the Year.

When he said that Malaria is an unpleasant, sometimes lifethreatening, even otherwise incapacitating disease, this is a medical fact. When he gave solutions for how to get rid of Malaria, he was also talking about Medical Fact. But when he spoke about Children's Mental Health, and against parents forming their children and against encouraging children to believe in Father Christmas, well, this was no longer anything like medical, nor anything like factual. It was his ideology. It needs to be opposed, and doing so is not an affront to science if that word means the study and knowledge of facts. I do not know if Chisholm actually said the follwing words or not, though I have little reason for real doubt, beyond the prejudice of rather letting guilty go than hanging innocent:

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas."

I do not really know if he said these words. I do however know that people saying those words would have found his ideas about Mental Health very congenial to their evil plans.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Bpi, Georges Pompidou
Easter Week Thursday
24-IV-2014

1 comment:

  1. I was tired.

    He would not have minded me using wikipedia on him. Ouch.

    First "he" refers to Chesterton, second "him" to Chisholm.

    As to Chesterton he is one author where I am past the wikipedian level of knowledge on him. As to Chisholm, I think the wikipedian level of knowledge of him is a bit beyond my comfort level as it is. Not meaning I want to disparage the wikipedians who made this accessible, of course.

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