Wednesday, 28 December 2016

Prière de Sainte Thérèse

Je viens à toi, cache-moi dans tes langes,
En ton berceau je veux rester toujours !
Là, je pourrai, chantant avec les anges,
Te rappeler les fêtes de ces jours
O Jésus ! souviens-toi des bergers et des mages
Qui t'offrirent, joyeux, leurs coeurs et leurs hommages ;
Du cortège innocent
Qui te donna son sang,
Oh ! souviens-toi !
- Thérèse de l'Enfant-Jésus

Bonum Festum Sanctorum Innocentium

Christifidelibus exopto./HGL

In Bethlehem Judae natalis sanctorum Innocentium Martyrum, qui pro Christo ab Herode Rege interfecti sunt.

Why Do they Remain Single?

Conversely, the number of children born to unwed mothers between the ages of 15 and 19, has continued to grow more rapidly than any other maternal age group --from 55,695 in 1990 to 66,859 in 2000--a percentage leap from 10 percent to 22 percent. According to The World Bank 2000 report, Feminization of Poverty in Russia , these under-aged, single mothers, together with single elderly women, are now the highest risk population groups for "stagnant and exceptional poverty - the poorest among the poor."


It is good that Silvia, Queen of my Country Sweden, is at least supporting teenaged mothers - in Russia.

What is less good is that Swedish as well as Russial laws or perhaps rather ungodly pseudolegislations are forcing some of these mothers to remain single.

At least in Sweden that is causing a lot of teens to depend on parents who force them to abort.

This is wrong, and during older laws - which really were godly and thus really were laws, not just pseudolegislation - a mother of 15 or even of 13 would be wed to the father of the child in quite a lot of the cases.

Hans Georg Lundahl
St Maur
Holy Innocents

Saturday, 24 December 2016

Bonum Festum Nativitatis Domini

Christifidelibus exopto.

Anno a creatione mundi, quando in principio Deus creavit caelum et terram, quinquies millesimo centesimo nonagesimo nono; a diluvio autem, anno bis millesimo nongentesimo quinquagesimo septimo; a nativitate Abrahae, anno bis millesimo quintodecimo; a Moyse et egressu populi Israel de Aegypto, anno millesimo quingentesimo decimo; ab unctione David in Regem, anno millesimo trigesimo secundo; Hebdomada sexagesima quinta, juxta Danielis prophetiam; Olympiade centesima nonagesima quarta; ab urbe Roma condita, anno septingentesimo quinquagesimo secundo; anno Imperii Octaviani Augusti quadragesimo secundo, toto Orbe in pace composito, sexta mundi aetate, Jesus Christus, aeternus Deus aeternique Patris Filius, mundum volens adventu suo piissimo consecrare, de Spiritu Sancto conceptus, novemque post conceptionem decursis mensibus (Hic vox elevatur, et omnes genua flectunt), in Bethlehem Judae nascitur ex Maria Virgine factus Homo.

Hic autem in priori voce dicitur, et in tono passionis: Nativitas Domini nostri Jesu Christi secundum carnem.

Quod sequitur, legitur in tono Lectionis consueto; et surgunt omnes.

Eodem die natalis sanctae Anastasiae, quae, tempore Diocletiani, primo diram et immitem custodiam a viro suo Publio perpessa est, in qua tamen a Confessore Christi Chrysogono multum consolata et confortata fuit; deinde a Floro, Praefecto Illyrici, per diutinam custodiam macerata, ad ultimum, manibus et pedibus extensis, ligata est ad palos, et circa eam ignis accensus, in quo martyrium consummavit in insula Palmaria, ad quam una cum ducentis viris et septuaginta feminis deportata fuerat, qui variis interfectionibus martyrium celebrarunt.

Barcinone, in Hispania, item natalis sancti Petri Nolasci Confessoris, qui Fundator exstitit Ordinis beatae Mariae de Mercede redemptionis captivorum, ac virtute et miraculis claruit. Ipsius autem festum colitur quinto Kalendas Februarii.

Romae, in coemeterio Aproniani, sanctae Eugeniae Virginis, beati Martyris Philippi filiae, quae, tempore Gallieni Imperatoris, post plurima virtutum insignia, post sacros Virginum choros Christo aggregatos, sub Prsefecto Urbis Nicetio diu agonizavit, ac novissime gladio jugulata est.

Nicomediae passio multorum millium Martyrum, qui cum in Christi Natali ad Dominicnm convenissent, Diocletianus Imperator januas Ecclesiae claudi jussit, et ignem circumcirca parari, tripodemque cum thure prae foribus poni, ac praeconem magna voce clamare ut qui incendium vellent effugere, foras exirent et Jovi thus adolerent; cumque omnes una voce respondissent se pro Christo libentius mori, incenso igne consumpti sunt, atque ita eo die nasci meruerunt in caelis, quo Christus in terris pro salute mundi olim nasci dignatus est.

Et alibi aliorum plurimorum sanctorum Martyrum et Confessorum, atque sanctarum Virginum. R. Deo gratias.

And as we approach Christmas, Matthaean Priority is Relevant

Theologyweb : Christianity 201 : Marcan Priority a Protestant Thing, acc. to Duncan Graham Reid

Just another day about Russian readers, 22-23.XII.2016

Russia 10 020:
103 860 604 21 242 63 824 1168 104 83 443 16 63 654 48 63 42 63 63 42 63 65 42 146 541 572 199 276 249 535 54 4 1705

Only on the item one blog 249 readers was Russia behind US.

Second country,
if any, sorted after diverse (only first country, not the ex aequo if any)

United States 611:
13 250 6 1 46 26 2 267 (this last one before Russia!)

France 29:
4 1 4 12 1 3 4

Germany 22:
7 13 2

Singapore 6:
1 1 1 1 1 1

One blog only
Poland 1
Italy 4
United Arab Emirates 1

Is there a massonic signature to the viewers?
One blog has these numbes:

Russia 654
United States 6 (654+6=660)
United Kingdom 2 (660+2=662)
Germany 1 (663)
Spain 1 (664)
Singapore 1 (665)
Ukraine 1 (666)

Not a nice number, so to speak.

I'd like
a lot more readers who are not Masons, but good Christians, then!

The blog where US was ahead of Russia is this one:

somewhere else

Friday, 23 December 2016

Bonus : Link to My Quora Profile

Hans-Georg Lundahl on Quora

To read one of my answers, log in - as long as the profile is still there./HGL

Some People Cannot Take it if Jews are Criticised

Is there any historical (NOT religious) documentation of the events described in the Bible's New Testament?

A by
Hans-Georg Lundahl,
Studied religions as curious parallels and contrasts to Xtian faith since 9, 10?

A Written Wed
The requirement “historical” and “not religious” is fairly contradictory.

You can’t get ANY historical documentation of these times which is not somehow or other religious.

But perhaps you meant specifically outside the Christian religion.

If we go to the events of the Gospels, well, not very much documentation, unless you accept, as perhaps you should, the Acts of Pilate as genuine.

Jewish smear campaigns on how Christ did His miracles are smear campaigns, not documentation - but they do document that He did work miracles, as “magic” would not have been an option if he had only been preaching.

As to the events in Acts, in general it is fairly well attested that Christians existed about that time and were targetted by Pagan Rome.

See Tacitus, Suetonius and perhaps a few more.

After my writing this:
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Dear Quora Moderation
Yes, I think it is an error on your part.

It is an error not to allow someone who knows about Toledoth Yeshu type Rabbinic literature not to call that Jewish smear campaigns.

And it includes the accusation, at least if you look at the end of Toledoth Yeshu, most probably levelled at Jesus, of Jesus having learned magic in Egypt and gained magic powers by the sacrilege of tattooing the Divine Name on his skin.

Or, if you thhought I was too snarky to a man who had asked, "Is there any historical (NOT religious) documentation of the events described in the Bible's New Testament?" by telling him "the requirement “historical” and “not religious” is fairly contradictory," and "you can’t get ANY historical documentation of these times which is not somehow or other religious," it is an error on your part not to allow for my being aware of facts which make his question rather ludicrous about its formulation.

Especially, since I just after it added a non-snarky and fairly respectful suggestion like "but perhaps you meant specifically outside the Christian religion," after which I proceeded to provide that.

I really and truly think either of these causes of considering my answer as violating the BNBR policy as tantamount to making it a hindrance to freedom of information, a boon to people who don't know and who are politically correct, insofar as they wish not to be corrected by anyone knowing better, and a hindrance to anyone with some knowledge of the historical matters here at hand.

Thank you in advance for responding to my appeal, which will contain this link after a copy of these words.

Hans Georg Lundahl
on the St Victoria, V and M
or 23.XII.2016

Update Christmas Eve
Answer was uncollapsed, and an excuse offered and accepted.

Merry Christmas, quora!

One more thing
If you want to know more about this, check out this series of posts, mostly one one blog, given after, and I am linking to first post in series, links to the rest are included in the post:

The Question of Contemporary Evidence

on the blog:

somewhere else

Wednesday, 21 December 2016

Il semble que certains voudraient présumer sur le passé que j'ai eu en psychiatrie

Je ne peux pas nier que des gens esclavagistes aient m'interné il y a quelques années à une occasion donnée, et que j'y suis resté quelques jours.

Mais on fait mieux de ne pas présumer que je sois "malade mental", une désignation que de nos jours ne veut plus rien dire, et qui en fait a toujours été moins précise que "fou". Surtout, on fait mieux de ne pas prendre "malade mental" comme fou.

Certains, pourtant, ayant un tournant esclavagiste et contraire à la liberté d'expression de leur esprit, pourraient faire l'erreur que je viens de signaler.

Je dis ceci parce que ce soir un étudiant à Nanterre U vient de dire "t'as été en asile avant".

Comme il le disait, c'est comme si j'y étais dépensée une partie importante de ma vie. Je ne suis pas sortie de l'asile à Nanterre U, à la bibliothèque universitaire.

Je suis sorti quelques jours après l'internation en 2012.

Quand au passé en Suède, quand j'ai été légalement en liberté plutôt qu'en prison, je n'ai été que peu en psychiatrie - mais avec une menace pesante que ça emporte, comme une mafia esclavagiste sur ma vie. La troisième fois qu'on a essayé, je me suis défendu contre le policier, avec son propre pistolet. Je fus condamné en cour d'appel à 3 ans et demi, après une libération pour "défense putative" en première instance.

Et là, en prison, j'ai effectivement dépensé 17 mois en psychiatrie forensique. Je suis, à part les jours en 2012 et à part une garde à vue à Marseille, libre depuis juin 2000.

Je n'ai pas sombré en une revanche violente qui m'aurait livré encore une fois à la prison, et ceci malgré des provocations répétées ces 16 ans en liberté légale et apparente.

Ces provocations ont quelque part creusé ma liberté. Mais de s'imaginer que je sois un homme très violent parce qu'en 1998 je me suis défendu contre un policier suédois qui jouais le laquai de la psychiatrie suédoise, donc d'un esclavagisme en soi criminel, c'est une hystérie idiote.

Je me demande si c'est une coïncidence pure que le propos me fut lancé:

  • le lendemain du jour que je viens d'écrire Les élèves français étaient arriérés en maths, selon le classement PISA? Un peu d'inspiration pour les études de maths, alors! (pour certains, ma philosophie de maths est controversielle)
  • après une semaine et deux jours que les lecteurs en Russie ont monté en nombre et ceux ailleurs ont baissé (la Soviétique ayant été un état où la psychiatrie avait trop de pouvoir)
  • le même jour que je viens de dire qu'un Franc-Maçon comme John Glenn ne peut pas être présumé allé au Ciel, après l'avoir dit avant aussi, sur un forum
  • où j'ai aussi dit que normalement être Catholique, le devenir avant de mourir, est un réquisit pour aller au Ciel,
  • le lendemain que j'ai évité à faire mon repas tandis qu'un homme que je croyais Juif était assis à côté, après avoir dit un peu avant qu'un Protestant m'agaçait par ses manières de Juif de l'Europe de l'Est?

La première fois, en Suède, j'ai été dans un village entouré par des Franc-Maçons, Communistes et Protestants.

Que des psychiatres servent de l'Inquisition laïque, ou que l'on s'imagine que je "bavarde" quand j'exprime ce genre de choses (aujourd'hui et à ce village j'avais aussi exprimé être pour Francisco Franco quand à la Guerre Civile), et que ça serve comme excuse, ça m'agace même d'en avoir une legère appréhension.

Hans Georg Lundahl
St Thomas Apôtre

Tuesday, 20 December 2016

Les élèves français étaient arriérés en maths, selon le classement PISA? Un peu d'inspiration pour les études de maths, alors!

C'est quoi 1013/43? Ou 103/10?

D'abord, 1013 = 10 000 000 000 000.

Ensuite, 243 = 8 796 093 022 208.

Donc, 1013 ≈ 243.

En fait, quand on tape 10x sur la calculatrice pour 13/43, on arrive à 2,0059753011004145503368445918337.

Encore, il y a aussi 103/10.

103 = 1000. 210 = 1024.

Donc, 103 ≈ 210.

Et quand on tape 10x sur la calculatrice pour 0,3, on arrive à 1,9952623149688796013524553967395.

Or, la proportion 2:1 se trouve entre la proportion 2006:1000 et celle de 1995:1000. Donc, pour avoir 10x "=" 2y (ce qu'on n'aura jamais tout à fait), il faut que x/y se trouve entre 13/43 et 3/10.


0,3023255813953488372093023255814 (13/43)
0,3 (+ 3/10 =)
0,6023255813953488372093023255814 (:2=)

Or, 10x pour 0,3011627906976744186046511627907 = 2,0006116372359750002448174178255.

Et, en effet, 20006:10000 est plus proche de 2:1 que 2006:1000.

Le logarithme pour 2:1 est donné comme 0,30102999566398119521373889472449.

0,3011627906976744186046511627907 (voir plus haut)
0,30102999566398119521373889472449 (à soustraire, le logarithme de 2, ce qui =)

Différence : 0,00013279503369322339091226806621.

On peut donc très bien dire que 2 (ou plutôt 2:1) ≈ 1013/43 ou 103/10.

Ce qui veut dire que 1013 ≈ 243 ou 103 ≈ 210.

Une puissance est, en soi, à exposant en nombre naturel.

Un exposant rationnel mais fractionnel est donc un abrégé algébraïque.

"ab/c = d" veut dire "ab = dc".

Et un exposant irrationnel en est l'expression quand il n'y a que d'approximation entre deux puissances des deux bases, comme entre les puissances de 10 et de 2. Elle n'a pas de réalité arithmétique, mais bel est bien géométrique.

Les "0,301" comme logarithme de 2 sur la base 10 sont très vrais par rapport à la longueur sur laquelle se trouve sur une règle à calcul la marque "2" en vue de la longueur sur laquelle se trouve la marque "10".

Et, comme on sait (j'espère), les longueurs, ce n'est pas de l'arithmétique, c'est de la géométrie!

Hans Georg Lundahl
BU de Nanterre
Veille de St. Thomas Apôtre

Saturday, 17 December 2016

Si le fantasy est prophétique, parfois?

Je n'ai pas lu Harry Potter, mais il semble que Voldemort y est un personnage de méchant ou de maléfique. Peut-être comme "sawron" un échantillon pour le Code ASCII?

V 86 080 6
O 79 150 15
L 76 220 21
D 68 280 29
E 69 340 38
M 77 410 45
O 79 480 54
R 82 560 56
T 84 640 60

Bon, 640 et 60 font 700, non? Anodin? Mais si on enlève le dernier T? 700 moins 84 est ... 620 moins 4 ... 616.

Et ce qui reste ressemble à un autre nom, aussi. Valdemar, la forme nordique de Volodimir ou de Vladimir./HGL

Thursday, 15 December 2016

Vignoble Caritas

... Et pour conclure deux sentences :

De l'Ecriture Sainte : "Le bon vin réjouit le cœur de l'homme" et de l'administration française : "L'abus d'alcool est dangereux pour la santé ; à consommer avec modération."

Faut ajouter, quand j'ai profité de leur hospitalité, autrefois, les repas étaient très bons, et le vin rouge aussi./HGL

I admire Tim O'Neill with reservations - but it is one sided. Feat.: Galileo Affair and Sensus Literalis

What is the most misunderstood historical event?

Tim O'Neill,
Head Inquisitor against bad history.
Updated Oct 2, 2015 · Upvoted by Lyonel Perabo, B.A. in History. M.A in related field (Folkloristics) and Stefan Hill
The Galileo Affair

[Note that most of his answer is very correct. I am only quoting what I took debate on.]


3. "The Church condemned heliocentrism because it believed the Bible had to be interpreted literally."

The Catholic Church did not (and does not) teach that the Bible had to be interpreted literally. In fact, the idea of Biblical literalism is a very modern notion - one that arose in the USA in the Nineteenth Century and is exclusively a fundamentalist Protestant idea. The Catholic Church, then and now, taught that any given Bible verse or passage could be interpreted via no less than four levels of exegesis - the literal, the allegorical/symbolic, the moral and the eschatological. Of these, the literal meaning was generally regarded as the least important. This also meant that a verse of scripture could be interpreted via one or more of these levels and it could potentially have no literal meaning at all and be purely metaphorical or symbolic.

Therefore the Church had no problem with learning that a passage which had been interpreted literally could no longer be read that way because we now have a better understanding of the world. So many passages were originally interpreted by very early Christians as indicating the earth was flat, but by the time Christianity spread to more educated converts, it was clear this reading was contrary to the knowledge that the earth is actually a sphere, so these passages came to be read purely symbolically.

All this means that the Church was quite capable of changing its interpretations of scriptures that seemed to say the earth was "fixed" etc if it could be shown that this was not literally the case. It just was not going to do so before this was demonstrated conclusively - something Galileo had not done. As Cardinal Bellarmine noted on his 1616 ruling on Galileo's writings:

If there were a true demonstration that the sun is at the centre of the world and the earth in the third heaven, and that the sun does not circle the earth but the earth circles the sun, then one would have to proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them than that what is demonstrated is false. But this is not a thing to be done in haste, and as for myself I shall not believe that there are such proofs until they are shown to me.

Bellarmine was no scientific ignoramus, since he had previously been a university lecturer in natural philosophy in Flanders and was well acquainted with the state of the cosmological debate. So he knew, as Galileo knew, that most scientists of the time still favoured geocentrism and heliocentrism was far from proven. As it happens, once heliocentrism was proven, the Church reconsidered and reinterpreted those scriptures precisely as Bellarmine proposed they should.


Hans-Georg Lundahl
"The Catholic Church did not (and does not) teach that the Bible had to be interpreted literally."


"In fact, the idea of Biblical literalism is a very modern notion - one that arose in the USA in the Nineteenth Century and is exclusively a fundamentalist Protestant idea."

In the 19th C there was a split and it is arguable that the literalist faction of Reformed confession became more so than Reformed had been previously, but they did not become more so than Catholics had been previously.

"The Catholic Church, then and now, taught that any given Bible verse or passage could be interpreted via no less than four levels of exegesis - the literal, the allegorical/symbolic, the moral and the eschatological."


Change "could" to "should" to make it a solid fact.

"Of these, the literal meaning was generally regarded as the least important."

Yes, but even so too important to be dispensible.

"This also meant that a verse of scripture could be interpreted via one or more of these levels"


"and it could potentially have no literal meaning at all and be purely metaphorical or symbolic."

No. Here is where the factoid factor in your explanation comes in.

Read up on it in St Thomas. Prima Pars, Q1, AA9 and 10:

The nature and extent of sacred doctrine (Prima Pars, Q. 1)

The nature and extent of sacred doctrine (Prima Pars, Q. 1)

"Therefore the Church had no problem with learning that a passage which had been interpreted literally could no longer be read that way because we now have a better understanding of the world."

Total rubbish.

"So many passages were originally interpreted by very early Christians as indicating the earth was flat,"

Needs proof.

"but by the time Christianity spread to more educated converts, it was clear this reading was contrary to the knowledge that the earth is actually a sphere, so these passages came to be read purely symbolically."

The explanations for Earth being round in view of this or that passage were actually more usually of a type explaining how even a very literal reading did not contradict Earth being round.

And, for the record, Lactantius who was probably very clearly a Flat Earther was later than St Augustine, not earlier.

"As it happens, once heliocentrism was proven, the Church reconsidered and reinterpreted those scriptures precisely as Bellarmine proposed they should."

Saying St Robert proposed a readjusted reading is over the top, he thought none would be needed and said he conditionally redoubted one.

And Earth has not been proven to either rotate or orbit the Sun.

"(the stellar parallax problem was not definitively answered until 1838)"

Has not been answered to this day, since they were discussing the parallax a sphere of fix stars would show when observed from Earth of Earth were moving.

With the 1838 phenomenon, you either throw out the sphere of fixed stars - or the parallactic interpretation of that phenomenon.

Tim O'Neill
Very little of the confused comments above are worth responding to in detail, even when I can work out what the hell they mean. Especially when they contradict each other - first you say the idea that “Catholic Church did not (and does not) teach that the Bible had to be interpreted literally” is “false” but two comments later you’re accepting the four levels of exegesis, of which the literal is only one. You seem highly confused.

Try Richard J Blackwell’s Galileo, Bellarmine, and the Bible (1991) - that should help you.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Sorry, but *all four levels* of exegesis were obligatory as true.

Why didn’t you check the reference I gave in Summa Theologiae?

Since all four levels were obligatorily regarded as true, the literal, being one of the four, was obligatorily regarded as true.

The only confusion involved is on your side.

Tim O'Neill
You think I don’t know and understand all this? Seriously - go away.

Well, I actually think he is confused on two accounts:

  • a) possibility of using figures of speech within the literal sense taken as if not radically differing from non-literal senses;
  • b) possibility (actually obligation) of using three non-literal senses taken as if a possible alternative, rather than addition, to the literal one.

I also know from earlier, he has a deep disdain for literalist Christian believers.

That became the occasion for starting my apologetic blog "against atheism" (in general, not in the particular of Genesis, where Creation vs Evolution is my blog for the answer). See first blog post on the blog "somewhere else" (which is against atheism):

somewhere else : Somewhere else than where exactly?

But yes, I truly find Tim O'Neill confused and prompoting bad history on this issue. Since he refers to Hannam, who is also confused on this issue. I did not quote the end of his comment, but he referred to Hannam.

Here I refer to my debate (short, but extant) with the same Hannam:

Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : With James Hannam on Whether Bible and Fathers Agree or Not on Shape of Earth

Note than on this issue, of "four corners", I differ in solution from St Robert Bellarmine. He translates the word as "four quarters", which is always possible. I consider that four corners requires a globe map, not a flat earth map, to get in all the countries we know of. Either way the solution is however inside "sensus literalis" and not invoking any "sensus allegoricus". Precisely because we are both very aware that even the sensus literalis has to be scrupulously observed as literally true. Note that - which Tim O'Neill did not note - St Robert Bellarmine is "proposing" to if so "proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them than that what is demonstrated is false".

But saying one does not understand, for one thing was never the thing of the Church and for another is still totally within the sensus literalis.

Note, he did not use any reference to "sensus allegoricus" in the quoted passage.

Bérulle actually recommends "heliocentrism in the allegoric sense" or in the moral one, as much as he is NOT recommending it in the literal one.

Joshua's long day, Sun allegorically signifies Jesus Christ, routing the enemies signifies exterminating one's sins, which takes the light of Christ, and "heliocentrism" in this context signifies it depends on Earth - the sign for the human soul in this context - to stand still under the Sun. Allegorical "geocentrism" would probably have been saying it is the Sun who choses to stay above this spot of Earth so enemies can be routed, i e looks a bit like predestination. Or why not, have Joshua signify the priest on whose words the Sun stands still over a spot of Earth so it can be cleaned from the enemies.

But in the literal sense, that is where Joshua's long day is about - Joshua's long day. Where the six days of Creation and the seventh day of rest from creating new (kinds of) things is about Creation and so on.

Those who wish to abuse the concept of sensus allegoricus (I take it Hannam is of that ilk, I take it he is Heliocentric and Old Earth Creationist or even Theistic Evolutionist), should take note of this, but they don't. They miss that any sensus allegoricus on Joshua X would be about something else than Joshua's long day, that any sensus allegoricus of Genesis 1 or 2 would be about sth else than Creation (part of Genesis 2 being allegorically about Good Friday).

Yes, I think Tim O'Neill and his "Catholic" or not so very Catholic in this respect authority James Hannam do miss a thing or two, and do not understand the Quadriga Cassiani, the tradition of exegesis in Four Senses, quite as well as I do. And I remain confident my judgement will remain the same after reading Richard J Blackwell’s Galileo, Bellarmine, and the Bible (1991), should I have occasion to read it.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Octave of the Immaculate
Conception of the BVM

Tuesday, 13 December 2016

Are the Times Apocalyptic?

I mentioned in a debate it could be useful to know angels are actually doing a choreography, when it comes to the sign which is upcoming next year.

Revelation 12:1 Sign Will Appear In 2017!

I got a response that the sign was not angels doing anything, just a natural prodect of ongoing process AND that, unlike the claim made by Vatican Catholic, the sign does not appear the first time.

Here is their description:

"According to non-Catholic astronomers who have studied and looked at how these constellations have moved and will move around in the future, this will be the only time in history things will all line up like this."

I think they are repeating the information bona fide.

Now, the reasoning behind the co-debaters claim this is not the first time is this : all of the planets are moving periodically and so this line up is also periodical.

Fair enough as far as it goes. In an infinite past and infinite future, the line up would be happening an infinite number of times.

But the time is actually limited.

This means, we can meaningfully ask whether the line up has or has not previously occurred since creation.

Now, before we go into this, let us do a little maths.

Venus, Mars, Mercury all have shorter circuits "around the Sun" than history has taken. It is very certainly not that long since Venus was where it will be in the line up, not that long since Mars was where it will be in the lineup, not that long since Mercury was where it will be in the lineup. Can it reasonably be a significant time since they all were together in same lineup?

Now, here is where some maths is useful.

Let us take a case with natural numbers - the ones which, unlike "real numbers" really are numbers. Since locusts only live one season per year as doing the thing they do before our eyes, locusts can be a good simile for starting points.

If one tribe or species of locusts swarms every five years, and one other swarms every six years, they will both be swarming every thirty years.

In year five from last time, only first will be swarming, in year six only second will be swarming, in year ten only first, in year twelve only second and so on. But in year thirty they will both be swarming.

Assume we were dealing with three tribes of locusts. Assume that the third tribe swarms every nine years.

In that case, the three tribes will be swarming together every 90 years.

We do not need to multiply 30 with 9 to get 270, it is enough to multiply each prime factor as its highest exponent.

A - prime factor 5.
B - prime factors 2 and 3.
C - prime factor 3 squared.

Three squared times two times five gives ninety. Since no number of interval years has "three cubed" we do not need "three cubed".

Next question is what happens if there is instead a tribe which has an interval of another number not sharing same primes. Say, every seven years.

Now, seven is lower than nine, so perhaps the interval for the common swarming of three tribes would be lower than ninety? No.

A - prime factor 5.
B - prime factors 2 and 3.
C' - prime factor 7.

Thirty times seven gives two hundred and ten. Between those periods, the tribes of locusts will swarm one by one or two by two, but only after two hunudred and ten years all three together.

So, what happens with planets?

I would definitely say, periods are longer - I just checked that only once every 83 years does Jupiter match the requirements. Last time Jupiter alone behaved like it will behave next year, was in 1934.

Because, the maths I was going to just hint at about planets, and hint that last time the line up was, it was before modern telescopes and such, a youtube user called chisza7 has already done in detail.

His conclusion : once in 7000 years. But here is the video:

How rare is the Revelation 12 Heavenly Sign [23 September 2017] Once in 7000 Years

Note, I have not come to where he makes the final countdown, I am not sure if "7000" isn't an approximation. I think it is, I think we must be dealing with some multiple of 83 close to 7000.*

83*84 = 6972
83*85 = 7055

No idea which of the rest match up better with the other planets.

If the Vulgate chronology were the correct one, that would mean that "last time" this line up happened was before creation.

If - as I do - we go by Roman Martyrology for December 25, we get these dates:

7216 7216 7216 Second Lineup ? Anno Mundi 7000 6972 7055 distance in years 0216 0244 0161 First Lineup ? Anno Mundi

So, first lineup would have been while Adam was alive, before or after Seth was born.

What if we go by the other LXX based chronology, the Byzantine one?

7525 7525 7525 Second Lineup ? Anno Mundi
7000 6972 7055 distance in years
0525 0553 0470 First Lineup ? Anno Mundi

Either way, if chisza7 is right, it was very long ago.

And since Adam was alive, it would perhaps have been a prophecy to him about what is going to happen now.

But apart from what Adam can have known, next year is probably the first time this great sign will actually appear in Heaven, for another reason.

Adam was probably not using telescopes. We are.

This means we can be watching the whole configuration of stars and planets, even if the Sun is there in the middle of it.

Without the Sun being there, we would not have the apocalyptic sign that the Woman is "clad in the Sun".

With it before telescopes, and matters or filters, we would not have been able to watch the sign in integrity.

And the verse which begins Apocalypse 12 is

And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:

Et signum magnum apparuit in caelo: mulier amicta sole, et luna sub pedibus ejus, et in capite ejus corona stellarum duodecim:

To the naked eye, this configuration cannot appear. We cannot look at the sun. If we look at the approximate direction, we look at day time sky, meaning that we miss all the stars because of daylight.

If we look at it on one meridian as sun just has set or on another one as sun is just going to rise, we miss either upper or lower part of the sign.

Either by miracle or by telescopes, the next year the sign is astronomically speaking set to be there in a time when it can also appear.

Therefore, I do tend to think this is Apocalyptically significant.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
St Lucy, Virgin, Martyr

* It could be that instead it is 83 which is an approximation and 7000 which is exact, or both are approximations. In the latter case, previous time (supposing chisza7 got the astronomical maths right) of the lineup, but not of an appearance of the entire sign, may have been when Seth was born, 205 Anno Mundi./HGL PS, sorry, 230 Anno Mundi!/HGL

Monday, 12 December 2016

On Printing by Xerox (Quora)

My Q
Has Anyone Tried printing Books on Xerox Machines?

My Comment
Not meaning on specific printers or printing cards used for printing e-books, but a) using a normal copy machine, able to diminish A3 > A4, b) printing books which were not books before he started printing.

and except for my own, interspersed with my comments.

My own
For my part, I have.

Using my own blogged or handwritten texts, and laying side by side the 8:1, 2:7, 6:3, 4:5 etc. pages manually.

Harry Parker,
Worked at multiple companies designing printers and studying image quality.
Written Dec 6
Any printer can be used to print the pages of a book. The difficult part is how to bind the book. This could be done manually or by machine.

Multiple options for book binding exist, depending on the size of the book and how many copies you want to make.

Xerox makes and sells multiple kinds of “finisher” options for their copier/printers, some of which can be used to bind books.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
I have done, so far, like this:

  • copying by machine (with foldable print sheets)
  • manually folding, binding and cutting (somewhat amateurishly)

Sunil Khopkar,
Printing Industry Specialist
Written Thu
If you want to print small quantities like 1 to 10 copies, you can get the books photocopied (widely known as Xerox in India) to save money. Further get it bound like this

This is the fastest & cheapest option.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
I do not think that that binding you show is great.

I prefer to copy double sided sheets with in total eight book pages, four each side, then fold, then bind manually.

It seems, even above 10 copies, xerox remains cheapest for a while.

[Here I refer to other answers, see following two]

Cy Stapleton,
History of printing from 2,000bc to about 1960.
Written Thu
Absolutely. I once had a a 4365. At the time I had a small commercial print shop and used the 4365 more than I used my offset or letterpress equipment. I specialized in short run books. Most of my books were either 48 or 96 page, but I printed books up to a little more than 500 pages. The largest one was a family history book with hundreds of photos.

The 4365 was far more efficient than the offset or letterpress machines and the photo quality was almost as good. Even better I could efficiently print a single copy or hundreds of copies for the same unit price.

More recently I was employed by Office Depot for a couple of years and we were using more modern Xerox work stations. They were far more efficient and have many more features, but not as fun to operate.

Moh Rafat H
Written Dec 7
actually, xerox has a very good range of products, that can compete offset print pres.

u can print books easily using a combination of software, printers, and finishers,

the problem that offset printers are very cheap for high quantities, so for example, if offset is used, it can be better for higher number of copies, faster, and cheaper, but if you want let us say 1000 copy or less, printers, such as xerox, in certain product ranges, could be cheaper, and for sure faster.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Oh, so you mean anyone wanting to try out a book in a kind of fanzine format before deciding on greater issues would be well advised to use Xerox rather than offset?

Sunday, 11 December 2016

Five Years Ago

I H. H. Pope Michael on Lent 2015 · II Five Years Ago · III Pray for a Pope · IV Reflection on Sedevacantism and Conclave of 1990 (quora) · V How Many are Currently Claiming Papacy or Claimed to be Popes?

Pope Michael, in the twentysecond year after his election, received consecration as a bishop.

It was the eleventh day of December, as today, it was the Gaudete Sunday, as today.

He had been ordained to Catholic Priesthood the day before. His orders go back to Duarte Costa.

This does not mean that Vatican in nExile is part of Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church. He has however accepted married priesthood even in the Latin Rite, as a return to earlier discipline.

I took the liberty to congratulate him on this belated event.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris III
Gaudete Lord's Day

Saturday, 10 December 2016

And some more stats from last 24 hours

In total 2385
406 1070 570 232 31 20 19 9 8 3 3 3 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1

III Sweden 406
3 10 8 38 10 41 39 40 22 6 5 9 20 22 25 5 5 5 5 5 5 10 4 18 7 6 7 9 11 6

I Russia 1070
347 207 123 1 63 21 16 21 21 21 1 105 17 21 1 21 42 21

II United States 570
33 18 1 1 1 5 251 3 2 1 9 2 243

IV France 232
164 16 6 2 5 11 5 4 7 2 2 2 2 2 1 1

V Germany 31
10 15 1 3 1 1

VI United Arab Emirates 20
12 1 1 1 2 1 1 1

VII Ukraine 19
4 1 2 12

Poland 9

Brazil 8
2 2 1 1 1 1

Portugal 3

United Kingdom 3
2 1

Turkey 3
2 1

Australia 2
1 1

China 2
1 1

Czech Republic 2
1 1

India 1

Barbados 1

Kazakhstan 1

Madagascar 1

Tunisia 1

Update 2 days later (non-overlapping):

In Total 1844

I Russia+1052

II United+States+664

III France+32

IV Ukraine+26

V Germany+24

VI United+Arab+Emirates+15

VII Canada+5








1 each
Netherlands, India, Indonesia, Brazil, Morocco, Argentina, New+Zealand, Romania, Spain, Finland.

And another day:



1 1 1

1 1

3 1



1 3


4 9 1 2 2 1 2 1 3 2 1 2 2 6
= 38, V

5 1 1 1
= 8


1 2







136 2
= 138, III

125 387 7 187 21 42 63 12 21 21 38 63 21 21 126
= 1155, I

Saudi Arabia
1 1



2 2 2

95 2 5 10 16 1 4
= 133, IV

United Arab Emirates
1 1 1

United Kingdom

United States
20 11 2 8 227 4 1 2 1 2 241 2
= 521, II

Can one resume this as growing Russian dominance, except two blogs where US is heading, and Russians arranging reading in views either 21 persons at a time or multiples of 21, most often? I think so./HGL

Friday, 9 December 2016

Three Countries Stats for Past Week

Russia 3860
693 1 167 8 212 42 17 43 520 88 43 92 63 1 238 1 148 22 8 84 22 32 278 340 130 42 519 6

United States 3582
61 2 9 2 1297 15 9 10 150 20 3 9 1 1 62 1 21 4 15 1 1 76 1697 6 2 107

France 387
50 13 1 10 6 5 7 79 24 11 1 1 13 14 12 1 8 16 83 10 6 16

Russian curiosity past the US American again?/HGL

Index XIV ENG : Assumption to Immaculate Conception, 2016

Part of Index Indicum

Bonum Festum Assumptionis Beatissimae Virginis Mariae · Bonam Octavam Assumptionis Beatae Virginis Mariae et Bonum Festum Immaculatae Cordis eiusdem Beatae Virginis Mariae · Bonum Festum Nativitatis Beatae Virginis Mariae · Bonum Festum Elevationis Sanctissimae Crucis DNIC · bonum festum Sancti Matthæi Apostoli · Bonum Festum Sancti Michaelis Archangeli · Bonum Festum Sanctae Theresiae · Bonum Festum Sancti Francisci · Bonum Festum Sacratissimi Rosarii beatae Mariae Virginis · Bonam Festivitatem Christi Regis · Bonum Festum Omnium Sanctorum · Pia Commemoratio omnium Fidelium Defunctorum · Bonum Festum Sancti Martini · Bonum Festum Sanctae Caeciliae · Bonum Festum Sancti Andreae Apostoli · Bonum Festum Sancti Nicolai · Bonum Festum Immaculatae Conceptionis BVM

deretour : Rosary for Catholics in Iraq, please! (a forward) · New blog on the kid : Gratitude is Due

Less Down Syndrome, No Murder, No Maiming - Possible? · Bad News for France

Is Homeschooling Legal under Zionist Legislation in Holy Land?

Opponents are Wrong, Here

End School Compulsion NOW!

Father John Hunwick on Assumption of Our Lady (Links) · Note on the Crusade (Medieval Version) · RIP - Gabriele Amorth (link) · Introducing two Writers · Around the Web on Feast of the Rosary · Another Reason to Believe Stars are Angels or Moved by Such · After Christmas Day came Holy Innocents (More Links) · Is Putin Jewish? · Just Listening to Orthodox Celts · Sioux Want Clean Water · Eamonn De Valera responding to Churchill in 1945 · Against Web Filters (Link) · Cassandra Hsiao, Student Writers, The Principle

Is the Multiverse "inherently atheistic"? · We can Throw That Around Because You Don't Teach It in School · Refuting Atheistic Eternism or Epicure - at Too Great a Price

Polish and Italian on Children

Publié en Ligne - Published Online

I prayed a prayer this morning, if you will call it that

Creation vs. Evolution : Since it is My Birthday, I Take Today's Article on CMI as a Birthday Present · New blog on the kid : I Also Find the Flat Earth Refuted

Two Rules of Successive Odd Numbers Apply to Square Numbers

Yesterday Morning, I distributed slips of paper with URLs to five blogs

Can Young People Conduct a Media Business from Home?

"Canonisation" of Roncalli Revisited · Bergoglio did it Again · Is Bergoglio a Christian? · Sts Benedict and Scholastica Homeless on Earth · A Warning to Swedish Lutherans · Update on Sts Benedict and Scholastica Homeless on Earth

A Reach Out to Mark Shea · C. S. Lewis Quoted by Mark Shea

There is a Difference Between Counsel and Obligation

Dans un hôtel il y a qqs semaines (Bilingual post, some English too) · Who Are My Enemies?

On Post- or Pre-Pub Peer Review

Is John Todd still alive? · Will Trump Release John Todd or Whoever the Man is Claiming to be So from the Shrinks?

When a Private Person Does This, It is Harrassment

1,020,997 views · Top 51 of my Blogs : Over 1000 Page Views · Pages on Next Level of Views : 500 - 999 · Third Level of Views 200 - 499

New blog on the kid : On Quora · I do love a good debate (here on Proofs for Existence of God) · Found on Quora - Answering Here · : · Some Fun on Quora, I · Some Fun on Quora, II · Some Linguistics on Quora (III, still fun) · Creationism vs Evolutionism on Quora, IV, still fun · Medieval Related, Mostly, on Quora (part V) · : · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere : ... mainly on Christianity versus Islam (though originally other question on quora) · ... on How would a person from the Middle Ages react to today's society? (Quora) · ... 3 QQ on Evolution / Creation (Quora)

Vatican Catholic Misrepresenting In Praeclara Summorum? Part I · Vatican Catholic Misrepresenting In Praeclara Summorum? Part II · Vatican Catholic Misrepresenting In Praeclara Summorum? Part III

Best Campaign Slogan for 2016 · Another Voice on US Election : Hillary and Partial Birth Murder · More on Election · Not Sure if Abortion Opposition will Affect a Certain Election (Over the Pond, from Here) · Dear Mr. Trump, Soon to be Mr. President · One more thing, Mr. Trump · And Here is an Echo of the Party : "Victory for America" · Greetings from Sweden to US · Was Trump Ever Pro-Life? · Election Regret : Why Did Catholics Not Know of Darrell Castle?

What has Vladimir Moss to Say about Putin? · Quoting a forum page : Moss vs Romanides · Quoting Moss, again, With a Comment

deretour : US and Cyber Freedom · New blog on the kid : Obama and Putin No Great Friends of Cyber Freedom

Half an acre and a cow · More from wiki Arable land

When Urban VIII set a good example to Montini

The Blog Stats are Sometimes Curious · Some Readers from Four Days

A Real Modern Counterpart of Savonarola?

New blog on the kid : Ultra-Brief Reply to David Palm on Observational Evidence for Strict Geocentrism · Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Sungenis, this is weak.

Are CMI Ever Wrong on Exegesis? Well, Yes.

Meanwhile, Shilly Shallying : Bergoglio

Admitting a Discrepancy Previously Undetected

Neutron Stars - a Geocentric Minority Report

Index XIV FR : l'Assomption à l'Immaculée Conception, 2016

Fait partie de l'Index Indicum

Bonum Festum Assumptionis Beatissimae Virginis Mariae · Bonam Octavam Assumptionis Beatae Virginis Mariae et Bonum Festum Immaculatae Cordis eiusdem Beatae Virginis Mariae · Bonum Festum Nativitatis Beatae Virginis Mariae · Bonum Festum Elevationis Sanctissimae Crucis DNIC · bonum festum Sancti Matthæi Apostoli · Bonum Festum Sancti Michaelis Archangeli · Bonum Festum Sanctae Theresiae · Bonum Festum Sancti Francisci · Bonum Festum Sacratissimi Rosarii beatae Mariae Virginis · Bonam Festivitatem Christi Regis · Bonum Festum Omnium Sanctorum · Pia Commemoratio omnium Fidelium Defunctorum · Bonum Festum Sancti Martini · Bonum Festum Sanctae Caeciliae · Bonum Festum Sancti Andreae Apostoli · Bonum Festum Sancti Nicolai · Bonum Festum Immaculatae Conceptionis BVM

Bonne Fête de l'Armistice

Asia Bibi

Je n'aime pas trop qu'on puisse retenir des gens sur des soupçons

Filles d'Europe ont trouvé le format blog · Dominique Venner ... soupire · Je continue avec Venner

Publié en Ligne - Published Online

Le mauvais plan de Brock Chisholm

Drôle de coincidence, non? [Mais une coincidence quand même, voir sa démentie]

Dollfuss n'aurait pas fait le geste de Henry de Lesquen

Pinsons qui restent Pinsons, Paléo qui Reste à Plat : Défence d'Abbé Frament · Continuons avec La Théière Cosmique · Continuons avec la Théière Cosmique

Les Cro-Magnons étaient des excellents peintres · Vendeurs à Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet

Dans un hôtel il y a qqs semaines

Creation vs. Evolution : What Some of You are Thinking / Ce que certains de vous sont en train de penser · New blog on the kid : Jouons un peu avec 0,84 · Posons environs 8 - 9% plus ou moins de Carbone 14 - ça donne combien d'années? · Bonne Nouvelle!

1,020,997 views · Top 51 of my Blogs : Over 1000 Page Views · Pages on Next Level of Views : 500 - 999 · Third Level of Views 200 - 499 (Il y a des liens vers des pages en français aussi)

Tentative de corruption?

Trois niveaux de maltraitance

Deux Nouvelles : sur l'ISIS et sur le capitalisme socialiste (?)

On vient de comparer le sédivacantisme a Savonarole · Bergoglio était écuménique avec qui? · En réponse à un argument de Mgr Williamson

Pour éviter un malentendu

Matthieu 28, pour un Calviniste

Thursday, 8 December 2016

Bonum Festum Immaculatae Conceptionis BVM

Christifidelibus exopto./HGL

Conceptio Immaculata gloriosae semper Virginis Genitricis Dei Mariae, quam fuisse praeservatam, singulari Dei privilegio, ab omni originalis culpae labe immunem, Pius Nonus, Pontifex Maximus, hac ipsa recurrente die, solemniter definivit.

Tuesday, 6 December 2016

Neutron Stars - a Geocentric Minority Report

Intermingling own observations with the data I glean from the two wiki articles:

RX J1856.5-3754

400 ly - 1 light day : 146097 reduction of every dimension

14 km
14000 m

17000 m


1 dm

PSR J0108-1431

424 light years - light day : somewhat greater reduction, if needed?

It is considered a very old pulsar with an estimated age of 166 million years and a rotation period of 0.8 seconds.

No actual size given, but I think the "apparent sizes" were comparable, and so are the distances considered as correct.

A rotation period of 0.8 seconds does fit a bit better with an object of 1 dm diameter than an object of 14 km diameter, right?

What were the apparent magnitudes again?

RX J1856.5-3754 : ~25.6
PSR J0108-1431 : ≤ 27.8

If apparent magnitudes are comparable, the real ones would also be comparable in the sphere of the fixed stars. And if apparent magnitudes are comparable and false "parallax calculated" distances are comparable, then calculated "real magnitudes" would also be comparable.

In other words, both objects would have a size about 1 dm in diameter.

And if an object has a rotation period of 0.8 seconds, 1 dm in diameter gives a vastly different approach to its energy than 14 km in diameter.

A magisterial example of how false assumptions about distances can give us false conclusions about the nature of a thing - not unlike the false assumptions evolutionists do about ages.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
St Nicolas of Myra

Bonum Festum Sancti Nicolai

Christifidelibus exopto./HGL

Myrae, quae est metropolis Lyciae, natalis sancti Nvcolai, Episcopi et Confessoris, de quo, inter plura miraculorum insignia, illud memorabile fertur, quod Imperatorem Constantinum ab interitu quorumdam se invocantium, longe constitutus, ad misericordiam per visum monitis deflexit et minis.

Eodem die sancti Polychronii Presbyteri, qui, tempore Constantii Imperatoris, cum ad altare Missas ageret, invasus est ab Arianis et jugulatus. ...

Monday, 5 December 2016

Je n'aime pas trop qu'on puisse retenir des gens sur des soupçons

(Cliquer pour agrandir)

Comme on se souvient, je viens de prendre partie pour la présomption d'innocence en faveur d'Esteban Morillo, même si ces deux articles en français, et deux autres en espagnol m'ont coûté de sympathies parmi les gauchistes que je côtoie:

Triviū, Quadriviū, 7 cætera : Serge Ayoub donne sa version

Triviū, Quadriviū, 7 cætera : Trois tueries sans armes, trois mesures

Que je viens de placer cet article comme exemple de "rhetorica" ne veut pas dire que le contenu soit de la rhétorique vide de sens, juste que je reconnais la fonction jurisprudentielle comme primordiale dans la rhétorique.

Voici en espagnol:

En lengua romance en Antimodernism y de mis caminaciones : A transmeter a Esteban Morillo

En lengua romance en Antimodernism y de mis caminaciones : Hé leido que el video le inocenta!

Ce qui me rappelle, en regardant l'affaire Méric sur la wikipédie, je vois ceci:

Statut Affaire en cours d'instruction

et un lien vers ceci:

20minutes : Paris: Fin de l'enquête judiciaire sur la mort de Clément Méric

Où c'est marqué:

La fin de l’enquête judiciaire ouvre un délai théorique de trois mois durant lequel les parties peuvent faire des observations ou demander de nouveaux actes d’enquête. Ensuite, il appartiendra au parquet de Paris de prendre ses réquisitions, avant la décision des juges d’instruction de renvoyer ou non les protagonistes en procès.

Puis-je espérer que Monsieur Morillo soit libre?

Bon, après ceci, je ne serais pas soupçonné de dire le suivant par partialité pour la gauche.

Les manifestations contre la pénible "loi travail", ça fait six mois. Et il semble que ça fait six mois aussi que trois jeunes, Antonin, Kara et Nicolas sont derrière les barreaux sur un simple soupçon, car les coupables d'un brûlage de voiture de policier étaient cagoulés, et il ne semble pas évident que les cagoulés soient les mêmes que ces trois.

Que je ne sois pas pour la "loi Macron" ne rend pas impossible de sympathiser avec les forces d'ordre s'ils se comportent de manière mesurée. Mais ici ça ne semble pas avoir été le cas. Chercher un coupable n'est pas exactement mesuré, dans la mesure qu'on en chope un sans bonne preuve de culpabilité.

Hans Georg Lundahl
BU de Nanterre
St Sabbas, Abbé

Admitting a Discrepancy Previously Undetected

I had, during most of my time as Geocentric debater, imagined "aether" as moving at uniform angular speed of 360° in somewhat less than 24 hours, namely in 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds.

Celestial bodies with a slower daily round around Earth, most notably Sun at 24 hours and and Moon at 360° in 24 hours and 50 minutes, are not moving with an aether slowing down as lower and closer to Earth, but moved by angelic movers. This part is so far no problem.

The problem is this.

I had imagined that the speed for 360° in 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4 seconds was a fairly slow rectilinear speed in terms of km/h at the level of Earth surface.

Therefore I saw no discrepancy in allowing on the one hand Geostationary Satellites to be moving at stellar angular speed one way through an aether moving at stellar angular speed other way, that is in reality (which I didn't count through) 360°/86 164,098903691 seconds or 0,0041780742162973°/second due Westward

0,0041780742162973° = 0,250684452977838 arc minutes = 15,04106717867028 arc seconds/second of time* still due Westward.

Do you know what linear speed that is at the equator?

40 076 km / 23,93447191769194 h = 1674,405022923298 km/h.

40 076 000 m / 86 164,098903691 seconds = 465,1125063675826 m/s.

For Geostationary satellites, I had counted on aether being "the medium of place" - what moved things when moving without adding momentum per se (though a relative momentum compared with things fixed to earth might result), without applying any force, simply by being the place itself of the thing and being displaced.

But on ground level, at Equator, this would imply falling things have:

  • a non-vectorial but factually local speed westward of 465 m/s
  • along with vectorial acceleration of approx. 9,80665 m/s2

So, the first second something fell, it would be falling 10 meters down and at same time 465 meters Westward ... er, no. It falls pretty straight down.

For this Westward speed to reduce to half, we would need to go further North or South than 45°. In Marseille, things falling down would go West faster than 232,5 m/s while falling down 10 meters. I don't think this is correct.

I did not notice any such falling Westward when I was there.

I thought of one solution, namely that not just the linear speed of aether could be slowed down due to angular speed being around a narrower circle, when on Earth level, but also the linear speed could be slowed down by another factor, drastically reducing angular speed, namely the nucleic matter of the atmosphere** interfering with the Westward move.

The problem with this solution is that aether is also supposed to be luminiferous, and the Michelson Gale experiment, in Geocentric interpretation, measured a Westward movement of luminiferous aether at 360° in 23,93447191769194 hours.

I don't think the Michelson Gale experiment was conducted at satellite height, more like ground level. Therefore, if aether were slowed down toward ground by nucleic matter in atmosphere, Michelson Gale should not have detected such a speed of the luminiferous aether.

In other words, the discrepancy is between "locigenous aether" having the slowness of Coriolis and luminiferous aether the speed of Michelson Gale and aether still being the same ... something is rather discrepant.

I have failed.

I don't know exactly where, but if the dear reader will take a look, I'd consider answers.

The in today's society most obvious one that Earth is turning around itself*** is least likely to be welcomed by me, just saying in advance.

That geostationary satellites work because of angels, rather than because of physical forces, I have already thought of.

Perhaps God and the angels were laughing when the satellites were launched, and God said "let's humour them a bit". Or perhaps NASA's satellites will be very useful one day, when Antichrist mimes the Solar miracles in atmospheric only version : he cannot do a real miracle, but he can do the appearance of one. Ergo, he should be able to fool viewers, but not obervation from space.

Or because internet is so far a good idea.

But, I would appreciate another mechanic solution for Geostationary Satellites, perhaps along same lines as mine, but involving no such discrepancy as here discovered.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
St Sabbas, Abbot

PS, has now been posted on three forums and sent in one pm for further debate./HGL

Update, St Francis of Sales (25.I.2017):

I did get a solution while posting on one of the forums. The object which falls straight to the ground is first held still above the ground, and thereby it has gained a momentum eastward through a westward moving aether, before it starts falling.

Really not very different from the explanation of Heliocentrics, and it involves some use of Mach's Principle./HGL

* a/100=x/60 ; 60a/100=x ; 6a/10=x ; 3a/5=x
86 164,098903691 seconds = 23,93447191769194 hours
40 076 000 m = 40 076 km

** My general theory of physics having gravitated to an otherwise elegant notion of aether being the matter between and around all nucleic matter, rotating more or less freely when unblocked by such, but staying mainly still - except for electricity and such - when inside bodies that include nucleic matter.

*** Even this would in no way show anything like a proof Earth were turning yearly around Sun.

Wednesday, 30 November 2016

When a Private Person Does This, It is Harrassment

At least Melania Trump thinks so.

The Washinton Times : Melania Trump attorney threatens lawsuit over Barron autism video

The creator of a YouTube video that speculated whether 10-year-old Barron Trump is autistic has apologized to the Trump family in a new video posted Tuesday afternoon.

YouTube user James Hunter issued the apology after news broke that Melania Trump was threatening a lawsuit over the video. In a letter obtained by Us Weekly, Mrs. Trump’s lawyer, Charles J. Harder, said the video was a form of harassment and bullying. He reportedly demanded that Mr. Hunter remove the video or face legal action.

In his new video, Mr. Hunter said his suggestion that the youngest Trump suffers from autism “is in fact 100% false.”

“It was incredibly irresponsible of me to diagnose Barron Trump using a selection of misleading videos,” he said. “Many of the videos I used showed Barron Trump behaving like any normal kid would at 3 a.m. I falsely correlated him trying to stay awake and occasionally doing a quirky things, with him suffering from autism. This was incredibly foolish of me.

“My video was originally intended as an anti-bullying video, as I myself suffer from autism and wanted to educate people,” he continued. “Unfortunately, I completely misdiagnosed a person and ended up making a video that was

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When someone is robbed of his freedoms because diagnosed as autistic, by someone authorised to misdiagnose, even if he also had a problem staying awake*, it is science.

Hans Georg Lundahl
III. District Townhall / Paris
St Andrew Apostle

* I may have been extra clumsy this morning, but I had been forced to leave a place where I had just woken up at 2am in the morning, and look for somewhere else./HGL

Bonum Festum Sancti Andreae Apostoli

Christifidelibus exopto./HGL

Apud Patras, in Achaja, natalis sancti Andreae Apostoli, qui in Thracia et Scythia sacrum Christi Evangelium praedicavit. Is, ab Aegea Proconsule comprehensus, primum in carcere clausus est, deinde gravissime caesus, ad ultimum suspensus in cruce, in ea populum docens biduo supervixit; et, rogato Domino ne eum sineret de cruce deponi, circumdatus est magno splendore de caelo, et, abscedente postmodum lumine, emisit spiritum.

Tuesday, 29 November 2016

Matthieu 28, pour un Calviniste

Le chapitre commence avec le récit de la Résurrection, bien-sûr. Mais il finit avec ceci:

Matthieu 28:16 Les onze disciples s'en allèrent en Galilée, sur la montagne que Jésus leur avait désignée.
17 En le voyant, ils l'adorèrent, eux qui avaient hésité à croire.
18 Et Jésus s'approchant, leur parla ainsi : " Toute puissance m'a été donnée dans le ciel et sur la terre.
19 Allez donc, enseignez toutes les nations, les baptisant au nom du Père, et du Fils et du Saint-Esprit,
20 leur apprenant à garder tout ce que je vous ai commandé : et voici que je suis avec vous tous les jours jusqu'à la fin du monde. "

Deux observations:

  • Les mots sont adressés aux autorités de magistère les supérieurs auparavant élues par Notre Seigneur, pas directement aux simples fidèles, et en plus ils contiennent le mention d'enseigner, de plus.

  • Ils contiennent la promesse d'être avec ce magistère tous les jours jusqu'à la fin du monde.

La fin du monde n'a pas encore eu lieu, donc, ce tous les jours jusqu'à la fin du monde doit nécessairement comprendre tous les jours jusqu'à maintenant.

Et ceci dit très clairement, que le magistère de l'Église est indéfectible.

Qu'en dit Calvin*?

So much the more intolerable is the wickedness of the Popish clergy, when they take this as a pretext for their sacrilege and tyranny.  Autant plus est intolérable la méchanceté du clergé papiste, quand ils prennent ceci comme un prétexte pour leur sacrilège et tyrannie.
They affirm that the Church cannot err, because it is governed by Christ;  Ils affirment que l'Église ne peut pas errer, puisqu'elle est gouverné par le Christ;
as if Christ, like some private soldier, hired himself for wages to other captains,  comme si le Christ, comme un soldat privé, se serait soldé pour d'autres capitaines,
and as if he had not, on the contrary, reserved the entire authority for himself, and declared that he would defend his doctrine, so that his ministers may confidently expect to be victorious over the whole world.  et comme s'il n'avait pas, au contraire, reservé toute l'autorité pour lui-même, et déclaré qu'il allait défendre sa doctrine, de manière que ses ministres puissent avec confiance expecter de vaincre tout le monde.

Précisément, s'il avait déclaré qu'Il allait défendre sa doctrine, Il l'avait aussi déclaré par moyen de qui, par ses Apôtres (et leurs successeurs), et avec combien d'assiduité, tous les jours.

Et le problème est que l'idée même d'une Réforme (telle que l'était la calvinienne à Genève, par exemple) présuppose qu'il y ait eu un lapse de temps quand le Christ n'aurait pas défendu sa doctrine avec toute assiduité, de manière que des erreurs puissent avoir eu temps de se glisser dedans. Ces prétendues erreurs que la Réforme prétendait éradiquer "en service du Christ".

Donc, l'idée de la Réforme Protestante est une idée totalement contraire au texte de Matthieu 28.

Qu'avait-il dit, ce Calvin, juste avant?

Even to the end of the world. It ought likewise to be remarked, that this was not spoken to the apostles alone; for the Lord promises his assistance not for a single age only, but even to the end of the world.  Jusqu'à la fin du monde. Il doit être remarqué aussi, que ceci ne fut pas dit aux apôtres seuls; car le Seigneur promet son assistance non seulement pour un seul âge, mais jusqu'à la fin du monde.
It is as if he had said, that though the ministers of the gospel be weak and suffer the want of all things: he will be their guardian, so that they will rise victorious over all the opposition of the world.  C'est comme s'il avait dit, que, même si les ministres de l'évangile soient faibles et aillent souffrir le manque en tout: il sera leur gardien, ainsi qu'ils surmontent victorieusement toute l'opposition du monde.
In like manner, experience clearly shows in the present day, that the operations of Christ are carried on wonderfully in a secret manner, so that the gospel surmounts innumerable obstacles.  Et pareillement, l'expérience montre clairement dans le jour présent, que les opérations du Christ soient continuées de manière secrète, afin que l'évangile surmonte d'obstacles innombrables.

Qu'a-t-il dit qu'il n'aurait pas dû dire? Ceci: "de manière secrète".

Pourquoi? Parce que l'Église est visible.

Que n'a-t-il pas dit, qu'il aurait dû dire, si son église était la véritable? Ceci: "jusqu'au jour présent".

Au lieu de "jusqu'au jour présent", il dit "dans le jour présent", admettant ainsi que l'évangile, telle qu'il l'imaginait n'avait pas de canal par exemple 50 ans avant, ou par exemple dans la jeunesse de Sire François de Sales, plus tard dit Seigneur de Boisy.**

Au moins pas de canal connu par lui-même.

Encore une chose, il semble avoir utilisé une mauvaise traduction:

"And, lo, I am with you always. ..." Ça veut dire "et voici, je suis avec vous toujours".

Mais la bonne traduction, c'est:

" ... et voici que je suis avec vous tous les jours jusqu'à la fin du monde. "

Toujours, c'est déjà trop pour la position calviniste. Toujours, c'est comme la papauté. Comme le disait le Concile de Vatican*** "perpetuos successores".

C'est quelque part analogue avec la perpétuité de tous les jours ici promise, mais pas identique. En 1939, entre le 10 février et le 2 mars, nul doute qu'il y a eu 20 jours sans pape.

Mais la promesse de Jésus-Christ est valable pas juste entre le 6 février 1922 et le 10 février 1939, et encore une fois à partir du 2 mars 1939 jusqu'à telle ou telle date°, elle est valable aussi pour les heures tardives du 10 février 1939 aux heures nocturnes et matinales du 2 mars la même année. Quand il n'y avait pas de pape, il y a eu pas mal d'autres évêques de l'église. Et tous, ou suffisamment, ont enseigné l'évangile pur - contrairement à Calvin.

Mais supposons que quelque part Calvin ne pouvait pas croire que l'Église catholique était la véritable? Avait-il alors le droit de fonder son propre église, comme il le faisait? Non. Il y a d'autres églises, bien que considérées comme sectes par l'Église catholique, qui, néanmoins ont gardé l'épiscopat et qui, au moment de la rupture avec Rome prétendaient au moins de continuer une tradition déjà existante.

Elles ne sont pas très nombreuses.

Les corps ecclésiastiques qui ont une prétention quelconque d'être là depuis le Jour de l'Ascension, depuis les 11 Apôtres de Mathieu 28, sont au nombre de cinq:

  • L'Église catholique apostolique romaine.
  • L'Église orthodoxe orientale, appelée par les Catholiques "schismatiques grécoslaves" ou parfois "hérétiques photiens".
  • L'Église copte, les monophysites qu'on appelle aussi Jacobites°°.
  • L'Église arménienne, une autre version du monophysitisme.
  • L'Église orthodoxe de l'Est, appelés par Catholiques comme par les autres Nestoriens.

Ceci sont les alternatives, dans lesquelles on peut d'une première approximation cerner l'Église du Christ, à partir du critère de Mathieu 28.

Toutes ces églises ont sept sacrements, pas trois comme les Luthériens, pas deux comme les Calvinistes.

Toutes ces églises sont épiscopales, reconnaissent donc des évêques au-dessus des simples prêtres, et qu'un simple prêtre ne peut pas ordiner un autre, contrairement à la doctrine presbytérienne.

Toutes ces églises demandent la confession sacramentelle dans la justification du pécheur qui est déjà baptisé.

Toutes ces églises vénèrent la Bienheureuse Vierge Marie (y compris les Nestoriens, qui disent Christotokos plutôt que Théotokos).

Toutes ces églises sont en pratique plus ou moins d'accord avec le concile de Nicée II : les premiers deux le reconnaissent comme Concile écuménique, les autres pratiquent la même chose - tandis que Calvin était plutôt d'accord avec les Iconoclastes, condamnés par Nicée II.

Toutes, sauf l'Église arménienne actuelle, peut-être, et y compris l'Église arménienne autrefois, confessent la présence réelle du Christ dans le Sacrement de l'autel.

Toutes, y compris l'Église arménienne actuelle, confessent que la Messe est un vrai sacrifice. Le seul sacrifice du Calvaire est rendu présent en chauque Messe valide. En chaque Messe validement célébré.

Toutes ces églises confessent aussi qu'à côté du texte biblique il y a la Tradition apostolique. Ce qui en plus découle logiquement de Mathieu 28.

Toutes ces églises ont aussi du monasticisme des deux sexes. Et à part les Nestoriens, me semble-t-il, requièrent le célibat d'un moine pour être élevé à l'épiscopat.

Les sectateurs de Calvin ont essayé de prendre contacte avec les Byzantins, ils ont eu une réponse un peu favorable, au moins pour leur personnes, par le patriarche Cyrille Loukaris, mais il y a une divergence si celui-ci favorisait leur doctrine, et ceux qui répondent en affirmatif le considèrent comme donc un mauvais patriarche, généralement. Ceux qui le soupçonnaient de le faire étaient ses adversaires à l'époque. Et à part Cyrille Loukaris, le Calvinisme a eu très peu d'appui chez les (si-dits) Orthodoxes.

Les synodes de Iassy en Moldovie et de Jérusalem ont répété des vieux condemnations du Catholicisme romain, mais ajouté pas mal de cpndemnations doctrinales visant le Protestantisme, et aussi directement le Calvinisme.

Retenue par les Orthodoxes Roumains était la suggestion de changer la langue liturgique, ils célébraient avant en Vieux Slavon, et ont introduit la langue roumaine ou vallaque.

Monsieur mon bienfaiteur d'hier, si vous lisez ceci, convertissez-vous. Ne restez pas Calviniste! Et merci encore une fois pour la pizza! Elle était très bonne!

Hans Georg Lundahl
BU de Nanterre
Veille de Saint Andrée Apôtre

* N'ayant pas son texte sans doute français en original, je prends le texte de studylight, une traduction anglaise, ou américaine, et retraduis en français. ** Celui-ci dira à son fils, le grand connu François de Sales, le Saint évêque de Genève, que le Calvinisme est une religion plus jeune que lui-même, il l'avait vu naître. *** Il y en a eu un : 1869-70! ° Une date en 1950, si Pie XII est déchu de la papauté cette année, comme le disait Michel Colin qui prit le nom Clément XV, ou encore le 9 octobre 1958, s'il restait pape à sa mort. °° Pas à confondre avec les Jacobites dans la politique anglaise, ceux qui se sont soulevés contre les premier usurpateurs hannovériens, comme en 1713 ou 1745.