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Sunday, 5 November 2023
Why I Am Against the Enlightenment
I give you historians better accredited than myself, presented by a further such:
For source, go to the video:
Debunking the Pervasive Myths About Medieval Witch Hunts
Kaz Rowe, 2 Nov. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXETCPMuHo
Disagreeing with part of her final words, obviously ...
Monday, 3 July 2023
InEnIm - is not really an anagram for Eminem ...
Incels.
Entitled persons.
Immature persons.
This is a kind of trilogy of people who, while not actually mad, in the sense of what modern shrinks tend to call psychotic, though that too is used outside actual madness, are still people that "responsible people" may feel a duty to not give what they want, at least not in big issues (concerning these - shall we say - issues).
A duty made from prejudice. A prejudice made from pseudo-science. A pseudo-science called psychology.
And a vicious circle. If you as "responsible person" feel you should collaborate with this, that and sundry, this means, this, that and sundry has better chances of avoiding the social positions of InEnIms. If you already have the social position of being stamped as InEnIm, this means "responsible persons" are not just withdrawing that support, but also doing what they can to get other people - like immature of age, as opposed to immature as persons - to withdraw theirs. This is likely to land you in less desirable situations, in which you risk standing out as an InEnIm for not just accepting the situation as it is. Even if it is gruesome, and even if the "responsible person" telling you to simply accept it would never dream of sharing your situation.
Speaking of not dreaming of sharing a situation. Being a bully victim is a very rapid road into being an incel. I don't think many girls really enjoy the prospective of getting into couple with a bully victim. Theoretically - and this obviously is a bonus for the bully victim - getting into couple with a popular girl may very well decrease or eliminate totally bullying. Girls however not seeing themselves as protectors (of men they consider as potential partners) will not really intuitively see this.
Two things have become different the last century or so to make this evil situation lots more common:
- girls delaying marriage for longer
- girls and boys more often being in coeducation in their teens by actually legal or at least societal obligation or need to stay in school.
Feminists theorise, this is all for the best of the girls. They get more and more options to get the real best possible partners, as they have more and more time to pick them, right?
Wrong. 100 % of the girls cannot share 20 % of the men (we don't want Harems or mass elimination of girls). Girls taking their time to pick and chose get abused, and girls refusing to get abused, actually get bullied too. Girls of 35 making a bad pick when they realise the good ones are gone have a worse deal than girls of 25 doing so. Why? Because on top of getting a less good husband, they also have fewer children, and their social life will depend more on that not so good husband.
It's worse for everyone. Including those the system is meant to favour.
That also includes the paedagogic measures taken about InEnIms ... since paedagogy is an alibi for systematically giving someone something else than he asks for, which is a rather dysfunctional society for one to navigate./HGL
Monday, 12 July 2021
Quand a-t-on changé le standard pour les vaccins anti-viraux?
Pas d'obligation vaccinale! · 4 millions morts en Covid dans le monde · Quand a-t-on changé le standard pour les vaccins anti-viraux? · Profiteurs du Covid-19 (ou du hype autour) · Kouchner en JDD · Que dire à propos le débat au conseil constitutionnel? · Combien des pourcents à l'hôpital pour Covid 19 n'ont pas été vaccinés? 99 ou 80?
Aux temps de Louis Pasteur, tous les vaccins viraux avaient leurs pathogènes cultivés en cellules d'animaux, de bêtes; de nos temps, c'est assez commun que les vaccins anti-viraux ont les pathogènes cultivés en des cellules de fétus.
Le 4 août, l'année passé, il y avait un article en New York Times, international edition, sur les préparations pour les vaccins russes, dans l'institut Gameleya.
Un des interviewés, un fils d'un ancien de l'un ou l'autre institut ou laboratoire (l'institut Gameleya n'était pas le seul évoqué), se souvenait de sa jeunesse, les années 80' il me semble, il découpait des reins de vervets, de Chlorocebus, et il me semble que c'était pour vaccin contre polio ou contre variole, je ne me souviens plus lequel.
Or, il semble que le SIDA ait existé avant ceci - une source parle même d'une maladie non identifié remontant à 1931, qui par symptomes semble identique au SIDA.
Par contre, il semble que l'idée de substituer les cellules fétales vient des années 80' (ou vers la fin) quand le SIDA devint une préoccupation majeure. Le virus (en forme SIV) existe en Chlorocebus, et à l'époque, on parlait plutôt de Chlorocebus que des chimpanzés pour l'origine du SIDA. Or, le Chlorocebus avait donc été utilisé en production de vaccins anti-viraux.
Pour clarification : un vaccin classique (pas une des dernières versions, avec ARN cultivé par bactéries génétiquement modifiées), chaque dose est un pathogène désactivé. Or, si le pathogène est une bactérie ou une amibe, on peut le cultiver en solutions de nutrition. S'il est un virus, on ne le peut pas. Les virus ne peuvent pas se multiplier sans d'abord d'envahir des cellules vivantes.
Les temps quand l'obligation vaccinale était votée, y compris par des Chrétiens, ça concernait des maladies plus dangéreuses, et les virus étaient cultivés en cellules d'animaux./HGL
Monday, 19 April 2021
Patronat et patronat
Au temps de St. Thomas d'Aquin et de St. Louis IX, le patron typique dans une ville - à part ceux dont les métiers étaient déplacer marchandises ou vendre marchandises d'ailleurs - avait peut-être cinq employés - genre deux apprentis et trois compagnons de devoir. Il avait été tour à tour apprenti et compagnon de devoir avant de devenir maître, et les apprentis allaient devenir compagnons de devoir et un des compagnons de devoir allait deveni maître, possiblement déjà en épousant le fille de ce maître.
Le "patron" typique de la campagne était le seigneur, et sous lui on avait des villeins - qui lui devaient juste partie de leur temps actif, celui des corvées sur le domaine, ou encore lui devaient les taxes pour utiliser les pressoirs, moulins ou semblable du ban. En d'autres termes, ils n'étaient pas employés, et ils disposaient de leur temps quoique, soit pas en entier, les corvées exceptées, soit pas du choix pour certains services nécessaires.
L'homme sous le patron était donc, soit beaucoup plus libre que l'employé, soit capable de devenir avec un peu de chance le prochain patron.
Il y a de nos jours un autre type de patronat. Le patronat industriel. L'employé lambda n'a qu'une mince ou totalement absente chance de devenir le patron après le patron, et portant il est beaucoup moins libre qu'un villein. Son patron réunit dans une seule personne le contrôle d'un maître sur le travail du compagnon de devoir avec le démarcage très net des gens dessous d'un seigneur. Je ne parle ici pas du patronat des TPE, qui correspond à peu près à celui des villes du Moyen Âge, je parle des patrons de CAC40 et en dessous jusqu'aux entreprises de taille moyenne.
Parmi les CAC40, en plus, la plupart ont délocalisé et par là supprimé des emplois en France. Une des exceptions très honorables était Danone, leurs suppressions d'emploi en France correspondent à celles d'ailleurs, et sont encore faibles, et je pense que l'autre était Air France.
Autre bonne particularité en France, les TPE ensemble sont peut-être pas plus grandes que les autres entreprises ensemble comme au Moyen Âge, mais au moins comparables à n'importe quel entreprise. Genre, aucune des CAC40 avait à elle seule autant d'employés que les TPE ensemble. Au moins c'était le cas avant le confinement.
Vis-à-vis un tel surpouvoir patronal, je pense que des mesures syndicales et légales sont très utiles. Une des choses que j'aime moins chez la droite française est un trop grand patronalisme. Je dois en conversation avoir répandu que parmi les issus d'Action française, "la Cagoule" faisait résistance contre l'occupant allemand. C'était au moins le cas pour Deloncle. Avant ça, il avait eu un passé un peu plus gris avec CSAR. Bloquer les armes destinés aux Républicains, ça va, mais deux policiers tués pour faire une intox du type "false flag" et quatre assassinats pour faire taire des gens ... en Présent, on a parlé de manière déshumanisant de "liquider" ou "d'éliminer" probablement d'après le livre récemment paru*.
Est-ce que ce genre de casuistique non catholique, rappelant le vocabulaire des prédécesseurs du KGB et de lui-même, aurait quelque chose à faire avec ce genre de grand patronat, impensable au Moyen Âge, qui avait un temps aidé à financier la Cagoule? Je pense que oui. Le plus proche de cette tactique et de ce vocabulaire au Moyen Âge était un roi disant** "est-ce que personne ne me débarassera de ce trublion de prêtre?" ou selon un biographe contemporain "que de frelons et de traîtres misérables ai-je nourri dans ma maisonnée, qui permettent que leur seigneur sera traité avec tel honteux mépris par un clerc de basse extraction!" Dans les deux cas, il a dû faire pénitence en se faisant flageller par des moines publiquement dans la cathédrale, après d'avoir avec ces mots provoqué l'assassinat de St. Thomas Becket.
De ce genre de réflexion, il suit que je trouve très bien que les employés ne soient pas astreints au grand patronat. En Présent, on s'était plaint de l'idée émise de reduire les 35 heures à 28 par semaine. Pourtant, aux temps qu'on reclamait 48, peut-être encore au temps de 40 heures, généralement, le mari travaillait et sa femme s'occupait de l'appartement et des enfants. C'était donc 48 heures par couple au patronat. Le propos de 28 équivaut à 56 heures par couple, le patronat gagne donc sur l'employé ... et il gagne encore davantage aujourd'hui avec souvent 70 heures par semaine par couple. Ceci pour un patron souvent absent comme un demi-dieu et intrusif comme le maître très présent du Moyen Âge.
N'oublions pas, avec l'école, le patronat est un des média qui s'imposent aux masses. L'homme des masses a choisi d'avoir tel patron pour une bonne paie et des heures décentes, et au-dessus du marché, le patron va lui influencer les idées sur pas mal des choses. On ne peut pas le motiver comme un bien évident en disant que les patrons sont les plus capables, tout court, juste parce qu'ils sont les plus capables à manipuler ce qu'il faut manipuler pour qu'une grande entreprise reste grande (parfois même amoindrie) et pour qu'elle grandisse encore plutôt que de créer des collègues à parité comme le faisaient les maîtres du Moyen Âge.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Paris
St. Timon de Corinthe
19.IV.2021
Corinthi natalis sancti Timonis, qui fuit unus de septem primis Diaconis. Hic primo apud Beroeam Doctor resedit, ac deinde, verbum Domini disseminans, venit Corinthum; ibique, a Judaeis et Graecis (ut traditur) injectus flammis, sed nihil laesus, demum, cruci affixus, martyrium suum implevit.
*Eugène Deloncle, de la Cagoule au MSR (Juin 1936-7 janvier 1944)
Patrice Delhomme
https://www.librairielalinea.fr/livre/9782353745234-eugene-deloncle-de-la-cagoule-au-msr-juin-1936-7-janvier-1944-patrice-delhomme/
On peut noter d'après le compte-rendu en Présent du samedi dernier que les 14 de Villejuif n'étaient nullement attaqués par la Cagoule, mais maladroits avec leurs explosifs.
** Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest? - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F
Pour la version la plus longue, Barlow, Frank (1986). Thomas Becket. University of California Press. p. 235. ISBN 0520071751. Retrieved 16 April 2018.
Tuesday, 20 June 2017
Refaire le péché d'Adam n'est pas une brillante idée
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Comment savons-nous le Moyen Âge? · New blog on the kid : Refaire le péché d'Adam n'est pas une brillante idée · Φιλολoγικά/Philologica : Comment savons-nous l'histoire primordiale?
Ce matin, je parlais à un homme qui est de en dehors de la caste intellectuelle. Ce qui n'empêche nullement d'être intelligent, il l'était au moins sur un sujet. Plus son boulot de barista, faire que le café soit bien mais pas trop bien pressé en dessous du jet d'eau de la machine n'est pas à la portée d'absolument tous et chacun, j'en suis moi-même un peu handicapé (j'ai essayé).
L'évolutionnisme a quelque part une ambiance de "la connaissance" et d'y croire est donc en quelque manière de manger le fruit de la connaissance. Et Satan est quelque part présent pour souffler au moins à certains qu'ils seront comme des dieux.
Dans les Années Trente, la plupart des gens qui s'intéressaient pour l'Atlantide avaient une curiosité si par hazard ils descendent des dieux et pour certains même s'ils re-seront un jour des dieux. À Tolkien d'écrire à la suite un conte titré Akallabêth qui raconte l'Atlantide, à l'inverse, avec la moralité que c'est la diable qui souffle "vous serez comme des dieux" et il rigole de ceux qu'il trompe.
Si l'Atlantide est démodée, il y aura d'autres curiosités. L'évolutionnisme ne l'est pas encore, il est encore en mode; pourtant, comme l'avait constaté le bariste, il est faux.
Par tel ou tel volcan on peut déjà savoir que la méthode potassium argone ne fonctionne pas pour le présent, et pourquoi donc fonctionnerait-elle pour le passé? Néanmoins, il y en a à y croire, par exemple que les empreintes de pieds de Laetoli sont d'il y a un million d'années et demi. Et que donc l'humanité a fait un énorme progrès depuis, car lescrânes trouvés "de ce temps" à la région ressemblent à des singes. Et pour ce qu'il y a des vrais hommes datés par carbone 14 à il y a 40 000 ans, le seule chasse et cueillette pour des dizaines de milliers d'années, on imagine que peut-être l'homme a évolué lui-même aussi, qu'il n'a pas juste fait évoluer ses moyens de subsistence.
On a des gens qui s'imaginent vraiment comme des dieux en train de redéfinir le bien et le mal : quand le vrai Dieu a couplé le sexe et la procréation, eux, ils disent que le plaisir devrait être accessible sans les enfants ou qu'on pourra nier à des gens qui se font ce plaisir d'avoir d'enfants, même à un homme et à une femme mariés. Et aussi ils disent que ceci devrait être accessible pour ceux qui ne veulent pas bosser pour leurs enfants mais, aussi, pour ceux dont ils disent qu'ils ne devraient pas faire d'enfants.
Et inversement, pour d'autres, ils disent qu'ils ne devraient pas rester stériles involontairement. Ils proposent la conception par éprouvette, un embryon pour le couple, trois pour la mort, directement ou par la recherche - ce qui est une tuérie de trois hommes.
Et si les parents (normaux) ont déjà leurs enfants, ce n'est pas encore fini. Il y a les DDAS (en Norvège, Suède, Danemark et Finlande ils ont probablement un récord mondial d'enlèvements des parents : en Suède, il y a 14 ans, j'ai lu la statistique qu'un tiers des placements devaient être interrompus, à propos le cas d'une fille qui était de retour chez son père, le vrai, après d'avoir été aggressé sexuellement par son père d'accueil). Et l'école plus ou moins obligatoire. Et s'il y a quelqu'un que l'un ou l'autre ne fait pas évoluer, il y a la psychiatrie aussi.
Oui, il y a des gens qui semblent croire à ce fameux "vous serez comme des dieux" : ils se comporte de manière à signaler à d'autres qu'ils sont restés des simples mortels.
Souvent, je ne parle pas de ceci, je préfère fustiger les technicalités à propos la fausse connaissance. Moins les volcans et potassium - argone. Et davantage carbone 14 qui, en même temps qu'il ne donne pas une gamme correcte du temps écoulé, il en donne au moins une gamme corrigible selon la chronologie biblique, quand on tient compte d'un taux de carbone 14 qui monte.
"Il y a 40 000 ans" - ça pourrait être il y a 4974 ans, l'année du Déluge (2957 avant Jésus-Christ, selon St Jérôme).
En 4974 ans, on doit avoir en chaque échantillon 54,788 % du taux à l'origine. Si donc le taux qui reste est de par exmple 0,792 % du taux atmosphérique, on présume que ça aurait baissé de 100 % à 0,792 %, ce qui prendrait 40 000 ans. Si en réalité on a eu 4974 ans, on n'a perdu que 45,212 %, le taux d'origine doit être 1,445 ou 1,446 %.
Et si le taux vient de monter à 69 fois le taux d'origine, ceci n'est pas arrivée en une nuit, il y a eu une montée lente. Et encore pas trop lente, elle doit avoir fini avant le début de l'ère chrétienne et encore un peu en avant.
Mais, bien-sûr, si l'étude de cette montée, les diverses approches où je peux y aller (et je multiplie les tables sur mes blogs) est une étude assez intéressante, il ne convient pas d'oublier d'où vient et où mène l'idéologie que je fustige.
Je remercie l'homme de ce matin de m'avoir donné ce bon rappel. "Vous serez comme des dieux", dit quelqu'un quiveut que nous soyons au contraire des très pauvres diables, ce qu'il convient à éviter, pour cette vie et pour la vie éternelle.
Et l'antidote se trouve en bonne partie dans la Sainte Bible.
Hans Georg Lundahl
BU de Nanterre
Pape St. Silvère*
20.VI.2017
PS, je demande pardon pour le délai de quelques heures, je viens d'écrire aussi l'article avant et encore un sur le blog Assorted retorts, à savoir ... on Misrepresenting Origins of Catholic Church - les tables se trouvent sur ce blog ci après un début sur Datation de Carbone 14, comment ça carre avec la Chronologie Biblique et une table en théorie idéale en Avec un peu d'aide de Fibonacci ... j'ai une table, presque correcte - et ensuite, j'ai intégré d'autres facteurs, en anglais, sur un autre blog, Creation vs. Evolution, avec une assez bonne table à Interim II St Jerome A / St Jerome Fibonacci et avec un dernier article où j'essaie de faire la même chose avec la chronologie de Syncellus (Déluge en 3358 plutôt que 2957 avant Jésus-Christ), où je fais peut-être le début un peu mieux, mais où je me suis aussi planqué dans un petit paradoxe chronologique pour les patriarches - qui n'est pas là en St Jérôme, de toute manière : Continuing Interim III to Joseph in Egypt. PPS, le paradoxe était une simple erreur de subtraction, corrigée maintenant./HGL
* In insula Pontia natalis sancti Silverii, Papae et Martyris, qui, cum Anthimum, Episcopum haereticum, a suo praedecessore Agapito depositum, restituere noluisset, a Belisario, agente impia Theodora Augusta, in exsilium pulsus est, et ibidem, pro fide catholica multis aerumnis confectus, defecit.
Tuesday, 11 October 2016
On Post- or Pre-Pub Peer Review
- Greg Neyman
Cited by CMI - ‘Peer-review is critical for scientific research to be taken seriously … Basically, several other scientists who are experts in the field examine your work to see if it contains errors. Occasionally you will see young earth claims of their work being peer-reviewed. … However, for young earth work to be taken seriously, it must pass the muster of peer-review from non young-earth scientists … Normally, a peer-reviewed article which passes muster would be published in a leading journal such as from the Geological Society of America, [not just] on the ICR website. If the RATE [Radio isotopes and the Age of The Earth] project truly publishes some work which is good enough for publication in secular journals, then they would surely pursue that route. It is clear in this case that the “peers” for these articles are other young-earth proponents, which cast serious doubts upon the validity of the works.’
- CMI answers
- Apart from the glaring inconsistencies in this line of argument (if young-earth research should only be taken seriously if it passes the peer-review of non young-earth scientists, then shouldn’t old-earth research only be taken seriously if it passes the peer-review of young-earth scientists? Are the ‘peers’ of old-earth scientists not also proponents of an old earth? Would this not cast serious doubt on the validity of their research?), it reveals an astonishing ignorance and naivety of how science and the peer-review process is actually conducted.
Creationism, Science and Peer Review
Published: 2 February 2008 (GMT+10)
http://creation.com/creationism-science-and-peer-review
There is another point. There is a difference between pre-publishing and post-publishing review. Greg Neyman is presumably speeking of pre-publishing. But if old earth believers were not given opportunity from stopping a publication of a young earth paper, who is stopping them from doing post-publish ing reviews, as acid as they like?
Perhaps they are themselves.
Purported reason "it hasn't passed pre-publishing peer review, so it's not playing by the rules of 'science' (Registered Trademark)".
That seems a bit lame. How if the real reason was something perfectly rational like "if we do a post-publishing review, like CMI or sometimes even Hans Georg Lundahl does of us, we direct attention to what we are reviewing and our readers can compare our review to what we are reviewing, and they might even - God forbid, even if he doesn't exist! / God forbid, if there is one! / God forbid!" (insert correct alternative according to personal "faith" of each person so arguing behind closed doors) - "come to the conclusion that we are wrong!"
Meanwhile, thanks to this old article by Greg Neyman (in note as Neyman, G., Creation Science Rebuttals, Institute for Creation Research, RATE Project Turns to Deception, 9 October 2004, answersincreation.org ), being linked to by and old article by CMI (as cited) which was linked to by an article of today, I have something to practise my talents (or otherwise) as post publishing reviewer on.
And if my post pub review is considered not scientific (see "Science" Registered Trademark) because raised by one who is not a Scientist as in having published papers that were pre-publication peer reviewed, it is still debate. And that went on as early as the Greeks, well before registered trademarks, well before this new idea of pre-publication peer review.
Now, the article by Neyman linked to wiki about "peer review". Good and bad choice. Bad for his purposes of giving a reference meant to always clearly justify peer review (it probably looked different back in 2004, I have done reediting on wiki myself and also saved the versions of my own editorial process on blogs so they remain after someone else changes the articles, which was done. But good, because the link actually gives me a division of how and when it started to be done in diverse fields. Peer reviews among physicians for their practise (good practise or malpractise) comes from Arabic physicians. Scholarly pre-publishing peer review is considerably later. Now, let us look at the article and one it links to in passages relevant for scholarly peer review. I will of course cite articles as they are now, and do not intend to change this post just because wiki articles change.
- Peer review
a linea: Scholarly - Scholarly peer review (also known as refereeing) is the process of subjecting an author's scholarly work, research, or ideas to the scrutiny of others who are experts in the same field, before a paper describing this work is published in a journal or as a book. The peer review helps the publisher (that is, the editor-in-chief or the editorial board) decide whether the work should be accepted, considered acceptable with revisions, or rejected. Peer review requires a community of experts in a given (and often narrowly defined) field, who are qualified and able to perform reasonably impartial review. Impartial review, especially of work in less narrowly defined or inter-disciplinary fields, may be difficult to accomplish, and the significance (good or bad) of an idea may never be widely appreciated among its contemporaries. Peer review is generally considered necessary to academic quality and is used in most major scientific journals, but does by no means prevent publication of all invalid research. Traditionally, peer reviewers have been anonymous, but there is currently a significant amount of open peer review, where the comments are visible to readers, generally with the identities of the peer reviewers disclosed as well.
- Scholarly peer review
a linea : History - The first record of an editorial pre-publication peer-review is from 1665 by Henry Oldenburg, the founding editor of Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society at the Royal Society of London.[1][2][3]
The first peer-reviewed publication might have been the Medical Essays and Observations published by the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 1731. The present-day peer-review system evolved from this 18th-century process,[4] began to involve external reviewers in the mid-19th-century,[5] and did not become commonplace until the mid-20th-century.[6]
Peer review became a touchstone of the scientific method, but until the end of the 19th century only an editor-in-chief or editorial committees performed it.[7]
Editors of scientific journals made publication decisions without seeking outside input, i.e. an external panel of reviewers, giving established authors latitude in their journalistic discretion. For example, Albert Einstein's four revolutionary Annus Mirabilis papers in the 1905 issue of Annalen der Physik were peer-reviewed by the journal's editor-in-chief, Max Planck, and its co-editor, Wilhelm Wien, both future Nobel prize winners and together experts on the topics of these papers. On another occasion, Einstein was severely critical of the external review process, saying that he had not authorized the editor in chief to show his manuscript "to specialists before it is printed", and informing him that he would "publish the paper elsewhere".[8] While some medical journals started to systematically appoint external reviewers, it is only since the middle of the 20th century that this practice has spread widely and that external reviewers have been given some visibility within academic journals, including being thanked by authors and editors.[7] A 2003 editorial in Nature stated that "in journals in those[which?] days, the burden of proof was generally on the opponents rather than the proponents of new ideas.".[9] The journal Nature itself instituted formal peer review only in 1967.[10]
- Notes, with my comments:
- 1
- Rena Steinzor (July 24, 2006). "Rescuing Science from Politics". google.com. Cambridge University Press. p. 304. ISBN 0521855209.
Rena Steinzor is a Professor at the University of Maryland School of Law.
Professor Steinzor teaches administrative law, food safety law, and advanced courses on the regulatory system, as well as legal analysis and writing/contracts. She has written in the areas of (1) criminal culpability for recklessness that threatens public health, worker and consumer safety, and the environment; (2) regulatory dysfunction in agencies assigned to protect public health, worker and consumer safety, and the environment; (3) the role of centralized White House review on the protectiveness of regulation; (4) environmental federalism, including so-called "unfunded mandates" imposed on state and local governments by the federal government; (5) the implications of industry self-regulation on the protection of the environment and human health; (6) "market-based" alternatives to traditional regulation; and (7) political interference with regulatory science.
She also writes on HuffPost.
Obviously, she is as such a credible source for saying earliest pre-publishing peer review (outside Catholic theology, which has reviews by superiors, cfr nihil obstat and imprimatur, NB) is one conducted by Henry Oldenburg in the year before the fire or plague or whatever it was in London.
- 2
- Committee on Science, Engineering, and Public Policy, National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and Institute of Medicine On Being a Scientist: A Guide to Responsible Conduct in Research National Academies Press, Washington, D.C., 1995,82 pages, ISBN 0309119707
This committee sounds very firmly anchored in technical research, where safety measures in engineering and correct treatments in medicine are concerned. Typical that they should be writing on peer reviews, it has some bearing on the earlier practise of clinical peer review of practitioners. Not really what I consider a prime necessity for investigations conducted for the sake of our curiosity.
Nevertheless, they are as such credible in saying that earliest pre-publishing peer review (outside Catholic theology, which has reviews by superiors, cfr nihil obstat and imprimatur, NB) is one conducted by Henry Oldenburg in the year before the fire or plague or whatever it was in London.
However, since it is 29 pages long, I haven't found the reference yet, if the link was even to the right reference. The book was supposed to be 82 pages, after all!
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- The Origin of the Scientific Journal and the Process of Peer Review House of Commons Select Committee Report
This one is Annex 1 to some Select Committee report. I'll cite you the text, it is (probably unlike the report as a whole) short:
- THE ORIGIN OF THE SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL AND THE PROCESS OF PEER REVIEW
- Learned publishing by means of the journal first began in the mid 17th century. Henry Oldenburg created the world's first scientific journal for the newly founded Royal Society of London (of whom he was first Joint Secretary) in March 1665 to solve a number of problems faced by early scientists. Principal among these was the desire to establish precedence: the first authors of a phenomenon or result wanted their priority as discoverer to be publicly acknowledged and secured before they were prepared to share their results with their colleagues. Oldenburg realised that an independent periodical publication run by an independent third-party that would faithfully record the name of a discoverer, the date the paper was submitted and a description of the discovery could resolve this dilemma for the pioneering scientists of his age. Philosophical Transactions, the journal Oldenburg set up for members of the Royal Society (but at his own financial risk and profit) did exactly this. In its monthly issues, it registered the name of the authors and date that they sent their manuscripts to Oldenburg as well as recording their discoveries, thereby securing the priority for first authors and encouraging them to share their results with others, safe in the knowledge that their "rights" as "first discoverers" were protected by so doing. Philosophical Transactions from its outset did not publish all the material it received; the Council of the Society reviewed the contributions Oldenburg received before approving a selection of them for publication. Albeit primitive, this is the first recorded instance of "peer review". It was quickly realised by Oldenburg's contemporaries that the accumulating monthly issues of the journal also represented a record of the transactions of science of archival value.
The four functions of Oldenburg's journal: registration, dissemination, peer review and archival record are so fundamental to the way scientists behave and how science is carried out that all subsequent journals, even those published electronically in the 21st century, have conformed to Oldenburg's model. All modern journals carry out the same functions as Oldenburg's and all journal publishers are Oldenburg's heirs.
The journal article performs a unique role in scholarship. It is an on-the-record, validated public statement of the claims made by its authors, like a witness statement under oath in the court of scientific opinion. It occupies a central position in terms of the wider set of possible communication modes that a researcher may adopt (oral presentations at conferences, early draft versions of a paper (preprints), an evaluated review article of other research articles in a field, a scholarly monograph or textbook). It is the evaluated (that is, peer reviewed) public, formal and final nature of the published journal article that make it so important to its authors, their individual standing and their career prospects.
- Commenting on that:
- This paragraph is - as we could see on the wiki above - incorrect:
The four functions of Oldenburg's journal: registration, dissemination, peer review and archival record are so fundamental to the way scientists behave and how science is carried out that all subsequent journals, even those published electronically in the 21st century, have conformed to Oldenburg's model. All modern journals carry out the same functions as Oldenburg's and all journal publishers are Oldenburg's heirs.
At least if by peer review is meant pre-publishing and by a committee independent of the publisher.
If however we include post-publication review by accepting answers and if we include editor's own personal pre-publishing review, it is correct, more or less, though ALL is a very daring word.
Nevertheless, this committee may well be credible in saying that earliest pre-publishing peer review (outside Catholic theology, which has reviews by superiors, cfr nihil obstat and imprimatur, NB) is one conducted by Henry Oldenburg in the year before the fire or plague or whatever it was in London.
Now, the question is, which of the sources has copied which, since all of them omitted the culturally rather easily comprehensible fact that Catholic Church had started the process by the Nihil Obstat, Imprimi Potest and Imprimatur reviews ordered on any books bearing on theology by Council of Trent one century or so earlier than Oldenburg.
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- Benos, Dale J.; et al. (2007). "The Ups and Downs of Peer Review". Advances in Physiology Education. 31 (2): 145–152. doi:10.1152/advan.00104.2006. PMID 17562902. "p. 145 – Scientific peer review has been defined as the evaluation of research findings for competence, significance, and originality by qualified experts. These peers act as sentinels on the road of scientific discovery and publication."
Two remarks. It is a medical or close to medical publication. Not one concerned with matters of human curiosity as such, without pragmatic urgencies, like Creation / Evolution debate. Even so its very title admits there are ups and downs in the question of applying peer review.
Obviously, someone looking at my debates from the medical standpoint, as I were trying to qualify as a physician, would be missing the whole point of there being matters which are of free debate and of my not claiming to be either a physician nor otherwise a scientist. Medical accountability may be a very excellent thing, but misapplying it to a debater is a mistake which a medical man could be making by suffering from both Asperger and cultural blindness and being blind to the fact that all fields are not medicine, all criticisms (including this one) of physicians OR other experts are not made with claims of possessing medical expertise.
He is of course very welcome to telling us "The first peer-reviewed publication might have been the Medical Essays and Observations published by the Royal Society of Edinburgh in 1731. The present-day peer-review system evolved from this 18th-century process,[4]."
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- Blow, Nathan S. (January 2015). "Benefits and Burdens of Peer-Review". BioTechniques (editorial). 58 (1). p. 5. doi:10.2144/000114242.
In so far as this is an editorial, this expresses the OPINION of the editor in chief Nathan S. Blow. In so far as Biotechniques are medical concerns, his is, like Beno's a typical med school point of view. But he is very welcome to tell us that this peer review, starting systematically in another medical paper than his (and thereby contradicting the annex 1 on all subsequent publications being heirs to Oldenburg) "began to involve external reviewers in the mid-19th-century,[5]" (even further away from Oldenburg).
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- Same source.
And he is very welcome to tell us "The present-day peer-review system evolved from this 18th-century process,[4] began to involve external reviewers in the mid-19th-century,[5] and did not become commonplace until the mid-20th-century.[6]".
So sth which was not even commonplace until the mid 20th century is supposed to be somehow an authority for the behaviour of an assumed reactionary, like myself? It's like telling Franco and Salazar they are wrong about condoms in schools, because Olof Palme endorses them, and Olof Palme is just SO progressive back in the last years of that Spanish and of that Portuguese statesman and first years of the Swedish prime minister!
Some of us just don't want to comply with progressive!
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- Pontille, David; Torny, Didier (2014). "From Manuscript Evaluation to Article Valuation: The Changing Technologies of Journal Peer Review". Human Studies. 38: 57. doi:10.1007/s10746-014-9335-z.
First link (placed here instead) actually goes to an index. No, actually not. It first went to a page which went Document non accessible ! and then redirected to the index:HAL, where Derniers dépôts says on top, also these two authors, also on subject of peer review:
David Pontille, Didier Torny. The Blind Shall See! The Question of Anonymity in Journal Peer Review.. Ada: A Journal of Gender, New Media, and Technology, 2014, http://adanewmedia.org/2014/04/issue4-pontilletorny/. <10.7264/N3542KVW>.
And here is second link: From Manuscript Evaluation to Article Valuation: The Changing Technologies of Journal Peer Review
[redirecting to]
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10746-014-9335-z
According to the abstract, it gives a somewhat long history of peer reviews. Instead of quoting again the wiki articled annotated to here, I'll quote opening words:
Born in the 17th century, journal peer review is an extremely diverse technology, constantly torn between two often incompatible goals: the validation of manuscripts conceived as a collective industrial-like reproducible process performed to assert scientific statements, and the dissemination of articles considered as a means to spur scientific discussion, raising controversies, and civically challenging a state of knowledge.
You may take it, if I am not into pre-publishing peer review, it is because my priorities are with the latter goal.
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- Kennefick, Daniel (September 2005). "Einstein Versus the Physical Review". Physics Today. 58 (9): 43–48. Bibcode:2005PhT....58i..43K. doi:10.1063/1.2117822.
The latter had an abstract ... no, a whole article, from which I cite this:
Einstein stopped submitting work to the Physical Review after receiving a negative critique from the journal in response to a paper he had written with Rosen on gravitational waves later in 1936.2 That much has long been known, at least to the editors of Einstein’s collected papers. But the story of Einstein’s subsequent interaction with the referee in that case is not well known to physicists outside of the gravitational-wave community. Last March, the journal’s current editor-in-chief, Martin Blume, and his colleagues uncovered the journal’s logbook records from the era, a find that has confirmed the suspicions about that referee’s identity.3 Moreover, the story raises the possibility that Einstein’s gravitational-wave paper with Rosen may have been his only genuine encounter with anonymous peer review. Einstein, who reacted angrily to the referee report, would have been well advised to pay more attention to its criticisms, which proved to be valid.
If you think Einstein is the nec plus ultra genius and admire peer review, this may give you some headache. Me not so.
I wonder if Einstein was wrong and I am - as you may have gathered from above - not a fan of pre publication peer review, especially of course when used as excuse for refusing to deal with Creationist arguments.
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- "Coping with peer rejection". Nature. 425 (6959): 645. October 16, 2003. Bibcode:2003Natur.425..645.. doi:10.1038/425645a. PMID 14562060.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2003Natur.425..645.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v425/n6959/full/425645a.html
An editorial means we are dealing with opinion.
As it seems, I am not right now at least finding the sentence from which note nine came down to reference in that editorial.
BUT I find a little clue why Creationists are not in the habit of sending material to Nature for pre publication peer review.
Other examples, for instance in mammalian evolution and muscle crossbridge dynamics, were published with editors and referees suspecting that their conclusions were probably wrong but giving the papers the benefit of the doubt because there were no insurmountable technical objections and they seemed important. Such cases have proved stimulating for their fields, even though (in at least one case) the conclusions, as techniques have improved, have indeed required revision.
Mammalian evolution? Oh dear! Btw, here is the paragraph shortened to the words before note nine above:
This is strikingly reminiscent of perhaps the most celebrated editorial judgements of all, in Annalen der Physik in1905. That was the year in which Einstein published five extraordinary papers in that journal, including special relativity and the photoelectric effect. The journal had a great editor in Max Planck. He recognized the virtue of publishing such outlandish ideas, but there was also a policy that allowed authors much latitude after their first publication. Indeed, in journals in those days, the burden of proof was generally on the opponents rather than the proponents of new ideas. ...
Breaking off here. For the process of PRE publication review, it should be. Publishing a paper does not mean accepting it is true. It is POST publication that the critics should be taking the burden of proof to the proponents of whatever is not obvious. Which in its turn is something somewhat other than "whatever is new".
One might also remember just how exceptional Nobel-winning discoveries tend to be.
Actually, the initial provocation for this editorial was the news story of how a man had NOT got the Nobel prize with a few others, because his version of a discovery was turned down by pre-pub review. We get it, grants and Nobel prices matter, but don't change the procedure, because Noble prices are rare and grants are not the publication's business anyway.
By and large, peer-filtering has strong virtues.
Which ones, the editor does not quite inform us. Perhaps like keeping Creationism out?
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- "History of the journal Nature: Timeline". Macmillan Publishers Limited. 2013. Retrieved 12 November 2013.
Oh, 1962, Cold War and Censorship. 1967, A Formal Peer Review System. Could there be some connection?
Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Motherhood of the Blessed Virgin Mary
11.X.2016
PS, I might one day go on to take the rest of Neyman's article, but his link to wiki was really worth gold!
Here are three saved versions of my own wiki editing, in French:
- 1) En français sur Antimodernism : Parallaxe
- 2) Géocentrisme, ma vers. 1
- 3) Géocentrisme, ma vers. 2
For the moment, clicking will introduce a commercial break with a link not found. Will try to verify problem ... and that blog is the one that does so. Had one hunch, not the correct one. Beyond me to fix, and due to some sabotage. At least happens in this library, not sure about where you access./HGL
Saturday, 13 August 2016
Bad News: Barbara Boxer does NOT Appreciate Getting Lectured by a Philosopher on Science
To those who know her, that may not be news at all.
The real bad news to those who don't is : she is a US Senator.
I just watched parts of a video in which she had (without any intention of becoming a Catholic, apparently) lectured a Catholic or Novus Ordo priest on his NOT positively agreeing with the Pope on Climate Change, interrupted him several times over, and THEN (not sure if that was the sequence in real time, but it is the sequence presented in the video) lectured a philosopher on ...
"... all you need to know is you are a philosopher, not a scientist, and I don't appreciate being lectured by a philosopher on science."
All you need to know about what is wrong with the world of today is in her way of treating the priest and the philosopher. AND the real bad news, she is not a school yard bully**, not a girl of 13 trying to play cool in front of a priest and a philosopher whose adult authority intimidate her frustrated ego of 13, she is ... a United States of America Senator! THAT is sore news for the world.
Only, with Bergoglio and Putin around (both agreeing with her on climate change, btw), she is not the worst news.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Mouffetard Library
St Hippolytus, Martyr of Rome
13.VIII.2016
* Western Journalism Video : Senator Boxer ...
[on FB, you might have to log in before watching]
https://www.facebook.com/westernjournalismvideo/videos/703203763116246/?pnref=story
** My trauma after school yard bullies and her manners as an adult in oral conversation amply explain why I prefer internet debate over oral debate.
Friday, 11 March 2016
Dangerously obsolete?
Just a few lines from a post on lifesite:
A view can hardly be dangerous if it is obsolete!
It can only be dangerous if it is current, at least in some degree.
Obsolete means "out of use":
Obviously, any view which at any time is dangerous is one which at the time is NOT obsolete, one which IS in at least some limited use!
It is the moderns who, not believing in faith, do not believe in logic EITHER.
In the Western world, except among very poor villagers and similar subcultures, if even as much, the view expressed in Tolkien's chapter "Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor" that Sun and Moon are a kind of lanterns carried about by a kind of angelic spirits was obsolete, and therefore not at all dangerous when Tolkien expressed it.
But by now, it is becoming dangerous again, since I have put it back in use. My fellow Geocentric Sungenis is very eager to ... well, silence it:
HGL's F.B. writings : Debating with Sungenis, Mainly
[see sections I, III, V and VI]
http://hglsfbwritings.blogspot.com/2016/03/debating-with-sungenis-mainly.html
If he had been dealing with "Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor" in original context, he would probably have been less .... incoherent and over eager. He is seemingly NOT ready for letting scholastic philosophy judge scientific paradigm, unless VERY well and clearly supported in Bible and Church Fathers, which he thinks, with some right, angelic movers are not.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre
Friday after Laetare Sunday
11.III.2016
After a lengthy debate over coffee, muffins and cantaloupe, French wrote, “it eventually came down to this. [My friend] looked at me and said, ‘Your beliefs are so dangerously obsolete, they should be silenced.’”
“You’re forgetting the small detail that conservatives have constitutional rights,” French shot back.
“The constitution,” her friend said coldly, “should be amended.”
Wrote French, “She ended the conversation and our friendship by saying she didn’t want to discuss this further because my status as a Christian meant I lacked the mental skills to have an intelligent debate. Her last words spoken to me were ‘You only believe in faith … not logic.’”
A view can hardly be dangerous if it is obsolete!
It can only be dangerous if it is current, at least in some degree.
Obsolete means "out of use":
obsolete (adj.)
1570s, from Latin obsoletus "grown old, worn-out," past participle of obsolescere "fall into disuse, be forgotten about, become tarnished," which probably is from ob "away" (see ob-) + an expanded form of solere "to be used to, be accustomed" (see insolent).
Obviously, any view which at any time is dangerous is one which at the time is NOT obsolete, one which IS in at least some limited use!
It is the moderns who, not believing in faith, do not believe in logic EITHER.
In the Western world, except among very poor villagers and similar subcultures, if even as much, the view expressed in Tolkien's chapter "Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor" that Sun and Moon are a kind of lanterns carried about by a kind of angelic spirits was obsolete, and therefore not at all dangerous when Tolkien expressed it.
But by now, it is becoming dangerous again, since I have put it back in use. My fellow Geocentric Sungenis is very eager to ... well, silence it:
HGL's F.B. writings : Debating with Sungenis, Mainly
[see sections I, III, V and VI]
http://hglsfbwritings.blogspot.com/2016/03/debating-with-sungenis-mainly.html
If he had been dealing with "Of the Sun and Moon and the Hiding of Valinor" in original context, he would probably have been less .... incoherent and over eager. He is seemingly NOT ready for letting scholastic philosophy judge scientific paradigm, unless VERY well and clearly supported in Bible and Church Fathers, which he thinks, with some right, angelic movers are not.
Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre
Friday after Laetare Sunday
11.III.2016
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