Tuesday, 5 May 2015

I Wonder Slightly How Calvinist TFP is?

One thing is that they seem to confuse the issue of Dan Savage's horrid attacks on morality in some speech or speeches with the question whether Disney Channel ought to send his sitcom Family of the Year or not. I do not really know how bad Family of the Year is. But when it comes to recommending a letter sent to Disney Channel, they ALSO say the following:

As practicing Catholics, we are filled with compassion and pray for those who struggle against unrelenting and violent temptation to homosexual sin. We pray for those who fall into homosexual sin out of human weakness, that God may assist them with His grace.

We are conscious of the enormous difference between these individuals who struggle with their weakness and strive to overcome it and others who transform their sin into a reason for pride and try to impose their lifestyle on society as a whole, in flagrant opposition to traditional Christian morality and natural law. However, we pray for these too.

God does NOT predestine anyone for evil. Council of Francfurt prefuting John Calvin. Now, having ONLY the alternative between either sodomy, which is a horrid sin, deserving similar punishments as murder and as magic, according to one Church Father, and a harsh struggle against "relentless" temptations would very clearly be evil.

If anyone is in such a position for real, if anyone is really incapable of doing what probable branded sodomite (back in 1534?) John Calvin did when marrying Ydelette de Bure and what more recently has been done even avoiding that sin, by a teenager confiding early enough in a girl friend who was not yet a girlfriend his problem, whom he then married, if someone really cannot do that, either he brought it on himself or it was brought on him. And not by God.

In the wording of TFP there seems to be no room for freedom in the way of seeking a girl who could understand, and it seems pretty clear he considers them about as a Calvinist congregation would consider an alcoholic or a drug addict. Indeed, if someone cannot chose either chastity or marriage, as in the normal way, if he cannot avoid sodomy or frustrated nostalgia for it, he is worse than a drug addict and worse than an alcoholic.

But that attitude while praying for someone that they take, I would not take with a drug addict or an alcoholic either. Of two, one : either I would not bother to pray for a certain person, or I would pray without this supercilious pretence of "charity" towards a specific person who actually disgusts me. I would not try to look before God as I were some understanding wise uncle of a wayward nephew.

Maybe you should take a stand against that sitcom and maybe you shouldn't. I cannot take TFP's word for either option.

There is a difference between "homophobia" as in classing sodomy with murder, and "homohysteria" as in seeing sodomites where someone really isn't at all, as is my case (unless once I was abused while sleeping), or as seeing either sodomites in act or homosexuals in mind not yet sodomite as incapable of making a real marriage by turning around and making a real, Christian marriage, as God intended it. Between one man and one woman.

I was discussing this problem with one leftist I had reason to frequent often, he told me some men would be as disgusted to lie with a woman as I to lie with a man. I told him a man could decide to lie with the woman he married, even if there was no initial attraction spontaneously. As with a man of the mental bent termed "homosexuality".

As Chesterton observed, Universalism is simply Calvinism turned inside out. If John Calvin said "God chooses whom He wants to save and whom He wants to damn in either case irrespective of his own merits, which then only follow from God's choice", a Universalist will reply "God chooses that all are saved and none shall have been able to damn himself". Both options are wrong.

Similarily a Dan Savage who thinks homosexuality should be lived out in sodomy is TFP turned inside out.

And I think both are wrong. In either pair.

Men can be saved and damned according to their acts and choices, and men can be sodomites OR married men, if homosexuality brings them such a choice, OR celibates, but not JUST sodomites or celibates, usually. If one be such, he might for instance have been choosing sodomy for too long.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Pope St Pius V

Yes, I know more or less what this pope in Horrendum Scelus said about clergy or monastics who committed such crimes or preparations thereof, and some who are not laymen cannot licitly marry : but that is because of certain vows, not because of homosexuality. Read the document. I haven't, but I would be surprised if it contradicted anything I have said here.

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